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Old 02-27-2015, 12:58 AM   #15
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:29 AM   #16
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:02 AM   #17
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One other thought...I was told to buy the trailer 1st...then the truck.

Good idea for most people. It's okay to buy more truck than you need to tow a particular trailer, but it's a terrible idea to buy a heavier trailer than you can tow with your truck. Unless, you're looking for an excuse to buy a new truck anyway
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:54 AM   #18
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This is going to get the big 3 into trouble eventually. Theres only so much weight that a pickup is going to carry or pull. It's gonna have to stop somewhere
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:48 PM   #19
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The new generation diesels are plenty strong to pull most RV's--forward.

What's lacking is the ability to brake well and handle super heavy loads given the relatively low truck weights and short wheelbases.

At one point, which may be some larger toyhaulers, a medium duty truck is warranted for towing.

Too bad that owners with enough money to buy larger tow vehicles may be too old to climb up into such tall vehicles.
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This is going to get the big 3 into trouble eventually. Theres only so much weight that a pickup is going to carry or pull. It's gonna have to stop somewhere
The fact is they meet the standard. The other two just keep adding claims without anything to back it up.

I tow 29K combined and it is rock solid even in extreme weather conditions. My truck is not as capable as the 13 and newer trucks it is a 2011 HO Dually crew cab.

I am picking up my 15 that has been on order since 12/2/14 tomorrow.
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The fact is they meet the standard. The other two just keep adding claims without anything to back it up.

I tow 29K combined and it is rock solid even in extreme weather conditions. My truck is not as capable as the 13 and newer trucks it is a 2011 HO Dually crew cab.

I am picking up my 15 that has been on order since 12/2/14 tomorrow.
Can I have the 2011?
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The new generation diesels are plenty strong to pull most RV's--forward.

What's lacking is the ability to brake well and handle super heavy loads given the relatively low truck weights and short wheelbases.

At one point, which may be some larger toyhaulers, a medium duty truck is warranted for towing.

Too bad that owners with enough money to buy larger tow vehicles may be too old to climb up into such tall vehicles.
I can tell you the braking system on my new 3500 DRW hauls a 17,500 pound 5th wheel down quite fast. I'm not sure if the brake surfaces on the 3500 is any larger than my 2500 (I haven't looked), or if the integrated brake controller is working better, but it stops fast.

I have noticed that on my new 3500 the braking is a whole lot better than the 2500 was. The 2500 seemed to have a vague brake feel, and fade. The 3500 drw has very positive braking. No fade that I have felt. Yes I might be bias because I have a new truck, but the truth is this truck is meant to tow. I think Ram hit it out of the park with this rig.

Off the the subject, but in tune with the towing theme, most of the the Hotshots you see towing on the highways these days from what I see s a fulltimer are mostly Ram 3500 dually's. There are also Ford dually's out there also, but far and away the majority of the trucks are Rams. Just saying!

I remember back in 1997 I was 1 of 2 Cummins techs at a Dodge dealer, and I got to service all the Loggers Dodge Cummins trucks, and a whole fleet of Dodge trucks from a large cattle ranch, so these trucks got trashed every day towing heavy loads. All they ever required was valve adjustments, and the fluid and brake changes.

During that time I was up hunting on our property up in the mountains, and I was taking a break. I heard what I knew from the sound was a Dodge pickup with a Cummins in it climbing up the 7% grade below me. Believe me as a tech yu can tell a Cummins a mile away. Anyway when he cam around the turn, and I could finally see him,, It was an older 3500 dually pulling a very long flatbed trailer with a load of logs on the back that would rival any semi truck log trucks load, and he was making time.
I said to myself that if I could ever afford to buy a diesel pickup it would be a Dodge with a Cummins in it. Now I've had the pleasure of having 2. I'm a lucky man. Oh and a hardcore Cummins fan.
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Can I have the 2011?
Sure! For the 39K the dealer is giving in trade and the Sales tax difference of about $3,800.

Someone is really going to get a great truck!
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I have noticed that on my new 3500 the braking is a whole lot better than the 2500 was. The 2500 seemed to have a vague brake feel, and fade. The 3500 drw has very positive braking. No fade that I have felt. Yes I might be bias because I have a new truck, but the truth is this truck is meant to tow. I think Ram hit it out of the park with this rig.
Brakes on our trucks are a function of the GAWRs.
The Ram DRW with a 9750 RAWR and a 6000 FAWR = 15750 lb minimum braking performance
So yeah... the newer one to DRW trucks are stopping some big loads especially with lets say a triaxle with 7k axles = 21000 lb of braking performance.
Thats 36750 lbs of combined braking performance.

Just another reason the newer gen DRW trucks are so popular with commercial haulers and folks with heavy RV trailers.
I made a living using DRW trucks 25-30 years ago. Back then we had maybe a 4600 FAWR and a 6800-7200 RAWR depending on year model and truck selections.
LDT's have come a very long way.
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