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Old 01-12-2014, 07:39 AM   #29
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Not in my neck of the woods. I've been pricing a new truck (class 4 chassis cab) out of curiosity for a few years now, and all 2 (GM bailed on that market a loooong time ago) are within maybe $5k in price. Differences in "Build" apps on their respective websites, coupled with forced "options" make a direct comparison difficult. Dodge usually is the least expensive, but at almost $50k for a 4x2, I'd still call all of them ridiculous in price. What's stupid is I can pull up numerous units at out of state dealers, especially Texas, where I could get a new 4x4 truck for $10k less than what either's build-n-price says I can get a 4x2. Tells me I'm getting screwed because of where I live.
I definitely agree that the prices of new trucks has gone way too high. This price difference is what I found when I bought my truck new last year. Might have been result of rebates at time but my ram had a lot higher markup than others. My ram was discounted over $12k off sticker. The Chevy I priced was same sticker price as ram with much less equipment and could only get $3500 off sticker and that's with rebates. Did not price fords as I would not own one but comparable to my ram sticker was $10k more. Just what I saw here in north Carolina.

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Old 01-12-2014, 10:11 AM   #30
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Ford sell more trucks to the service industry. I bet there are more base trucks sold also. The XL is the bread and butter model and can be bought at a used truck price. Mine is the XL base with 3 options. Diesel, seats and air. Being XL the heavy spring package seam to have been added.
I added $600.00 to make it mine and been satisfied for 7 Years.
I have keyless locks, 2008 camper mirrors, a/v that includes 2 rear cams. Roof mount video for better gps display, auxiliary tank, ScangaugeII, Hypertech programer and more previous owner add ons. It was not my first XL. I sure would not pay $7000 for an A/V system while I have a better one now.
My truck new was $40K and I bought it used in excellent shape for $20k. At the time there was no diesel truck on the lot for less then $64k to $74k.
9 Years before I bought a GM Silverado diesel loaded for almost twice as much as the used Ford and everything around the basic truck broke down. For me it was going back to basic and buy something I could fix. But so far everything is fine.
I cannot find a decent diesel truck on the lots. But in tough times I have seen the white XLs on lots with decent prices.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:21 PM   #31
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If you want a truck to pull a RV trailer up to 8000 lbs (dry) get a Tundra double cab 5.7L. Use it for many dependable years, and sell or trade it in on another. Just watch how much $$$ they will give ya. You will need a wheel barrel to haul it. Just traded my 05' Toyota 4Runner on a new Tundra and they can't wait to get my used Toyota on their lot. Got 14k trade value...(9 years of towing my tt )

On the the other hand if you need to haul a 5er or a 32' + tt get a Ford 250, 350 Chevy / Dodge 2500, 3500. Toyota will only sell 100k Tundra's, but it will be 100k solid tow vehicles more each year on the road. Their Texas plant only has a capacity of 130k Tundra's which they hope to make this year.
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The Tundra frame is the weak point. I saw video were over a rough road the bed wobbles and the gas cap opened from all the body flex.

With all the other great little trucks with better frames I skipped over the Tundra.

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The Tundra frame is the weak point. I saw video were over a rough road the bed wobbles and the gas cap opened from all the body flex.

With all the other great little trucks with better frames I skipped over the Tundra.

Sorry.
I haven't owned one but I hear get horrible fuel mileage as well. Not bashing them just what I have heard and read. Many folks swear by them though so must be tough.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:04 PM   #34
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What does it matter who sold the most trucks? What in blazes does that have to do with their suitability as a tow vehicle for travel trailers and 5th wheels (the subject of this forum)? The majority of them are mall cruisers anyway.

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Not too unusual in a discussion that a part of it will be beyond the strict confines of the subject of a forum, though.

And I do agree, most trucks are mall cruisers. But right now I'm truckless, anyway (well, there goes the mall trip )
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No, if you want a truck to tow a trailer, ANY trailer, 5-Er, TT, 40 foot flat bed.. TRAIL-HAULER.COM is I think the URL to check out.

Folks who shop there do not ask "Can my truck tow this" They know it can.

Got the URL right on the first try.. Wow.
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Why is it in the towing war between the truck makers that payload capacity doesn't get consideration? Or stopping capability, GCWR or AWRs?

Towing capacity doesn't mean a whole lot when you consider a human can pull a 330,000 lb. train just by overcoming rolling resistance. Pretty sure that guy wouldn't be able to slow it down in a panic stop though.

STRONGMAN: Syrian man pulls 150 tonne train - YouTube

I watched an episode of Gold Rush on TV the other day. They were hauling a humongous wash plant in the Yukon with a semi & lowboy trailer. It got stuck on a hill. They hooked up a Ford pickup to the front of the semi and lo and behold.... Rescued it and the wash plant no problem and saved the day. Seemed more like a Ford ad....
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I watched an episode of Gold Rush on TV the other day. They were hauling a humongous wash plant in the Yukon with a semi & lowboy trailer. It got stuck on a hill. They hooked up a Ford pickup to the front of the semi and lo and behold.... Rescued it and the wash plant no problem and saved the day. Seemed more like a Ford ad....
With the exception that the producers fuzzed out the Ford blue oval. I heard they are part sponsored by Toyota so a big blue oval may cause issues.
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A 3/4 ton Ford truck and camper was stuck at a store and i offered to tow it to his friend's place on my way home.
Shifted my 2.3L Ford Ranger on 4 wheel drive and towed it 4 miles. The rear tires did not have enough weight for traction on 2 wheel drive.
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