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Old 08-05-2014, 10:50 AM   #1
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Fifth wheel hitches

Hey yall... considering trading my TT for a 5er... looking at different hitch options... I want to add both gooseneck and 5er capabilities, or can a 5er be converted to gooseneck? Any recommendations?

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Old 08-05-2014, 10:56 AM   #2
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This subject comes up about once every two weeks. B&W gooseck & B&W Companion is the best combo I've ever used. The Anderson looks interesting and I might consider it if I find myself in the market for a new hitch setup... Don't get a GN adapter for your pinbox unless you check with the trailer manufacturer. I would not consider using one, puts too much stress on the pinbox mounting frame!

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Old 08-05-2014, 11:12 AM   #3
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I agree with road dogs reg. the gooseneck adapter, way to much stress on the pinbox.
I have the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel hitch and love it, there is no chucking, bouncing or whatever because the adapter on the pinbox hugs the ball snuggly and due to it's design it is very light weight and can be removed or installed by one person in under 2 minutes.
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Old 08-05-2014, 01:54 PM   #4
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Assuming you have an 8' bed, then your best bet is the 5er/gooseneck hitch that Ram installs as an OEM option on new trucks - The Reese Elite series hitch. It includes both gooseneck and fifth wheel hitch connections.
Fifth Wheel for 2005 Ram Pickup by Dodge | etrailer.com

Pay attention to details. I don't know about a Ram, but on a Ford, the aftermarket Elite comes in three different packages - 1] the under-bed rails (install kit), 2] the fifth wheel hitch, and 3] the gooseneck accessories kit that includes the gooseneck ball. There are two different versions of the install kit, with and without the gooseneck provision - so be sure you order the one that includes the gooseneck provision. The Elite 5er hitch is available in three versions - 18k, 18k slider, and 25k. The 18k slider hitch is for folks that don't have the 8' bed.

If your Ram is a shorty, then maybe Reese makes an Elite under-bed install kit for that too. Call ETrailer.com and ask. If they make the install kit, then you can buy the 18k slider hitch and have no problem with cab to trailer contact - assuming you don't forget to slide the hitch before you back up.

The next best option is to install a B&W Turnover Ball gooseneck hitch, then add the B&W Companion hitch to the mix.

Amazon.com: 1313 B&W Turnover Ball Gooseneck Hitch Ball Dodge Ram 2500 3500: Automotive

Amazon.com: B&W Trailer Hitches 3000 Companion Fifth Wheel Hitch Kit: Automotive

Note that B&W Companion is also available in a slider version.

If you don't want to spend that much money, then you can probably "get by" with a less-expensive 5er/gooseneck hitch that uses in-bed rails instead of under the bed rails. For example, Reese makes the cheap Pro series that you don't want, but they also make the excellent original series that's now called simply the Reese 5er hitch:
Fifth Wheel for 2005 Ram Pickup by Dodge | etrailer.com

With the Reese above-bed rails for the above 5er hitch, you can add an inexpensive Reese gooseneck hitch that plugs into those rails:
Reese Above-Bed Gooseneck Trailer Hitch - 25,000 lbs Reese Gooseneck and Fifth Wheel Adapters RP58079

The 5er hitch above includes the "semi-custom" install kit. That means you must eat your Wheaties before you drill holes in the frame of the truck. But Reese offers a more-expensive "quick install custom" kit that requires no drilling. I would insist on that:
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There is a GN adapter out there now that totally replaces the pinbox and is recognized by at least one of the major RV frame manufacturers to not void the warranty when used on their frames. It's not cheap though.
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