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waterboy1972 · 09-08-2015, 03:50 PM

HI, I have questions about pulling a fifth wheeler. I have been a ford man all my life, but have heard several bad things about the f250 6.7l diesel. On the other hand I have heard good things about the duramax in the gmc. Help

Cummins12V98 · 09-08-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by waterboy1972

HI, I have questions about pulling a fifth wheeler. I have been a ford man all my life, but have heard several bad things about the f250 6.7l diesel. On the other hand I have heard good things about the duramax in the gmc. Help

Since you are open minded maybe you would consider RAM/Cummins. One really big item is the Cummins has the most dependable injection pump of the three. GM and ford are the same it's just that GM will help if you have a water related issue and Ford won't.

RAM trucks are SAE J2708 compliant with the highest ratings in their class. Ford 250/350's are not compliant.

Best thing to do is go test drive all three. GM and Ford will feel quicker thats because of the higher raving engine but you don't buy a diesel to race with.

In all honestly they all three will do the job, but if you are looking at long term durability the RAM/Cummins combo is hard to beat. Add the Medium Duty Aisin transmission to the Medium Duty Cummins and you will have a towing beast.

JBurg · 09-09-2015, 07:44 AM

+2 on what Cummins said.

There are a ton of reports involving the CP4 equipped on the new Ford and Chevy diesels catastrophically failing, and taking out the rest of the high pressure fuel system when it happens. "Internet people" are saying neither company accepts any fault and the cost to repair will not be covered under warranty. New Ram still uses the proven and reliable CP3 injection pump.

Good luck on your decision!

TDI-Minnie · 09-09-2015, 08:49 AM

X3 on the Cummins
Add the fact that you have fewer moving parts due to I6 vs V8, a lot more room under the hood, half the gaskets, two fewer injectors etc. Not to mention the Cummins has gear driven timing vs chain.

tuffr2 · 09-09-2015, 10:06 AM

All three are good pulling machines. If looking for used look at 2011 or newer. That is the year all 3 trucks were improved.

The Ram was again improved in 2014 and the Ford improved in 2015. I have not seen where the Chevy was improved since 2011 but I could be wrong. They added high end features to their Denali trim level truck but no internal improvements since 2011.

If you have been a Ford man in the past with their unreliable outsourced diesel engines you will like the 6.7.

If I were to buy another new truck it would be the Ford. If I were to buy a used truck I would buy the Ram because it will have depreciated more than the other trucks. A used 2011 Ram would be a lot of bang for the buck. A 2011 thru 2013 Ram will not use DEF.

Both the 2011 Ram and Ford have a very nice interior.

Cummins12V98 · 09-09-2015, 11:02 AM

Don't think I agree on the RAM depreciating a lot. On trade I was given 38K for my RAM Dually that I paid $51,600 with 65K on the clock. This was AFTER I ordered the 15 in my signature.

justafordguy · 09-09-2015, 01:40 PM

All of the new diesels from the big three are great towing machines, drive them all and see which one you like best.

C130 · 09-10-2015, 05:52 AM

All three trucks are comparable and the "RAM is the best" is nonsense, it's personal opinions. You can find tons of complaints or praises on any of the three. I just a had a conversation at the gas station with a 2014 RAM DRW owner that was part of the buyback. 4 sets of new front tires, front end shaking like crazy at certain speeds, and now he has to start all over with a new truck with new payments. He said he'd never, ever, own a RAM again. They can all have issues, my opinion is look at all of them and choose the one you like best. This is my second Ford Super Duty, both have been great so far. We all like what we own until it starts having major issues.

JohnBoyToo · 09-10-2015, 06:10 AM

WOW,
a one and done poster that opened up the proverbial can-o-worms

All are good, some are not as good, just like rv's

Have had two of the 6.7 ford's and HATED to get rid of them... but after the fiasco with the new 5'er and it's issues, didn't need a large truck anymore and got a good trade on the motorhome.

okcnewbie · 09-10-2015, 06:25 AM

I'm not posting until waterboy comes back........Doh, I just did! Shoot

C130 · 09-10-2015, 01:45 PM

I will say the GM looks great and I'm sure it's a great truck. I actually think all three look great but the RAM's and Fords far outnumber the the GM's around Houston, GM's are not even close.

PostMan · 09-10-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by waterboy1972

HI, I have questions about pulling a fifth wheeler. I have been a ford man all my life, but have heard several bad things about the f250 6.7l diesel. On the other hand I have heard good things about the duramax in the gmc. Help

I went through this three years ago and after much research bought the 2nd Ford I've ever owned. My research then told me that the 6 and 6.2 ltr Ford diesels had problems but the 6.7 was a good motor. With now 75,000 miles our 2012 Ford F350 is and has been a great purchase.

With that said I would echo what someone else has said. They are all now good trucks and I think it would boil down to which you like better.

Cummins12V98 · 09-10-2015, 02:17 PM

Something to consider if you are looking for long term durability. Look around, most of the independently owned RV transporters and HotShotters drive RAM trucks, GM is behind RAM and Ford is a long way behind GM. Also look around at the full timers parks RAM and GM are fairly equal and ford is far behind. A few years ago GM and Ford were in opposite positions.

But the uninformed will mostly choose Ford, who would not want a "SuperDuty" ?

tuffr2 · 09-10-2015, 03:31 PM

Yikes...when I look around all I see more Ford trucks than any other.

Here are the sales numbers for 2014. (They have been like this for a long time)

1. Ford F-series - 753,851
2. Chevy Silverardo - 529,755
3. Ram - 439,789
4. Toyota Camry - 428,606
5. Honda Accord - 388,374
6. Thru 10. All cars.

So I call a 'Bogus' statement.

Ford trucks historically out sell Ram trucks. That is a fact jack.

I guess a lot of people do not know better...ugh