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Old 07-17-2017, 04:39 PM   #1
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This sticker does/does not tell me how much I can tow?
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Perhaps you'll find the answer in the 2011 Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide:

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...ng%20Guide.pdf
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:13 PM   #3
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Enter your VIN number here to get the build sheet for your truck, then confirm the gear ratio, cab, and engine in the fleet towing guide.
https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleSelection.do
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:20 PM   #4
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This sticker does/does not tell me how much I can tow?
Nope. It does tell you how much weight you can put on each axle - check those numbers when ready to camp at a CAT scale. The other important number is your cargo capacity which is on the yellow sticker. Most often, that is the number you will be close to or over. For Ford, that is the max weight for the total of people and stuff in the truck (and anything added to the truck after it came off the assembly line) and your tongue/pin weight.
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Based on that sticker, you possibly have a F250 rated at GVWR 10,000 lbs. That would effectively be your max tow rating from Ford. Weigh your truck and subtract that number from 10,000 and you have your payload or get a rough estimate as suggested earlier by looking at the yellow sticker on the B pillar.

FYI, your F250 is mostly the same as a F350 but registration fees are for 10,000 lbs. The difference on F350/F250 for 2011 is going to be the lift block size is smaller (F250) and:

Brakes — Vacuum-boost (SRW gas and F-250 SRW diesel)
Brakes — Hydro-boost (F-350 SRW diesel and DRW)


If that is a MY 2012, I believe the brakes are identical between F250/F350.
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Where is that yellow sticker on a 2012 Ford F-250, I didn't see it on the drivers door. Thanks for that VIN lookup site Normal_Dave, that had a great list of items included.

Just gave the dealer $1000 deposit on this truck today, going to arrange financing and pick it up next week when we get back from VA Beach, VA.
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Gross vehicle weight rating has nothing to do with how much you can tow. The difference between a 250 and a 350 is not just spring blocks. You think they get the higher payload capacity by just raising the bed?
Research what GCWR is and how that can help determine max towable weight but you need to use common sense on what is the practical towable weight.
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Gross vehicle weight rating has nothing to do with how much you can tow. The difference between a 250 and a 350 is not just spring blocks. You think they get the higher payload capacity by just raising the bed?
Research what GCWR is and how that can help determine max towable weight but you need to use common sense on what is the practical towable weight.
Please feel free to expand on your statement then and let us know what the difference is between a modern same year F250 and F350 given they are built with identical options.
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Where is that yellow sticker on a 2012 Ford F-250, I didn't see it on the drivers door. Thanks for that VIN lookup site Normal_Dave, that had a great list of items included.

Just gave the dealer $1000 deposit on this truck today, going to arrange financing and pick it up next week when we get back from VA Beach, VA.
Its on the B pillar towards the bottom usually - mine is right by the bottom hinge for the rear door (Crew Cab).

If you are looking to get a 5th wheel, skip it and a get a F-350. Should be fine for a TT though.
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Please feel free to expand on your statement then and let us know what the difference is between a modern same year F250 and F350 given they are built with identical options.
I guess my answer didn't post so here goes again. I guess you don't understand the difference between a 250 compared to the 350. It's more than spring blocks. How do you think the 350 achieves a much higher payload capacity? Go down to a Ford dealer and take a look at the rear springs on both models. Obviously the 350's are much heavier. There are also transmission differences based on model but I'll let you discover that. Of course they share most features and options but they also share them with the 450. So what, it doesn't make them all the same.
Get back to us after you do the research. If you have specific questions I will answer them.
I recently purchased a 2017 F250 CCLB 4X4 so I feel I know what the differences are.
I know it doesn't have the same rating as the F350 or F450. It does have the same axle ratio as the 450. Why is that possible?
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Let's see. My gvwr is 10,000 lbs. I subtract my truck weight which is 8050. Front axle 4400 rear axle 3650 total 8050. That leaves me with 1950 pounds as the heaviest trailer I can tow. You need to research the various terms and what they mean and how they relate to each other. Never have read such misinformation.
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Never have read such misinformation.
Pot meet kettle?


I have done my research and do own a 6.7L F350. For a similarly optioned SRW F350 and F250, there is little difference except for the OEM rated GVWR. Same chassis, same axles, same wheels/tires (in many cases), same engine/tune/turbo(6.7L), same transmission. You can choose not to believe that which is fine.
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You obviously have not done your research. The payload capacity is much larger with the 350. Check you facts before you make such rediculous statements. Again, the options do not change the basic specs unless your talking about towing or heavy duty packages. I'll answer the question about the 450 since you apparently couldn't figure out the answer. The only way to get 4.30 in the 250 is to order gas with the optional axles, 4.30 not available in 350-450 even with diesel. The transmission in the gas 250-350 is different because the 350 generally tow more weight so they use the same transmission as in the diesel. If you want more differences I'll be glad to add several more.
There is an old Chinese proverb that goes something like this, "better to keep quiet than to talk and reveal lack of knowledge". Not an exact quote but you get the point.
Come down off that high horse and mingle with us common folk.
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Please refrain from insults, it really lessens your ability to be believed and is generally a sign of a weak argument or individual. There is no need to sling mud here, we can discuss like adults, can't we?


So yes, I stated same build and options on a F350 and F250, including the engine and rear-end although I didn't explicitly state the rear-end, which is possible. The only thing different "mechanically" is the rear lift blocks. The rest is basically the same truck unless you want to knit-pick about badges, stickers and such. Yes, a F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 lbs while the F350 has a GVWR of 11,500 lbs (or whatever the GVWR is for the new iteration F350). Where do those numbers come from?

And BTW, I said nothing about the F450 so not sure why you are going off on that comparing a F250 build to a F450.

The F250 3/4 ton designation basically exists to full fill a non-commercial tax base in states that tax for GVWR over 10,000 lbs. In some states, having that GVWR over 10,000 lbs put them into higher road taxes. There truly is almost no other need for a 3/4 ton build except for how a state perceives that truck usage.

I'm sorry if this is new news to you but I've said my peace on this. You can choose to not believe it as you want. But, I'm done here.
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