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Old 10-16-2016, 06:08 PM   #29
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As stated earlier, use the Gross weight and figure 15% of that as potential tongue weight. 100lbs for hitch too.

IMO, you should be good to go as long as that truck has around 1600-1700lb payload.

Is it a 2017 with 10sp?
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I have the 2015 F-150 XLT with 4x4. The aluminum F-150 came out in 2015. Mine has the 5.0, 3.55 gears and SCrew and the 5.5 foot bed. Mine is rated for 1840 lbs cargo and can tow 9,000 lbs. My TT loaded is about 5,800 lbs. with a 740 lb hitch weight. I tow it with no problems. I keep my speed down and a good WD hitch takes care of any sway. I've dragged this TT thru the Smokey Mountains so if there was a problem, it would have shown up. I think I could have bought a little heavier trailer but I like lots of cushion.
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Old 10-16-2016, 07:41 PM   #31
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As stated earlier, use the Gross weight and figure 15% of that as potential tongue weight. 100lbs for hitch too.

IMO, you should be good to go as long as that truck has around 1600-1700lb payload.

Is it a 2017 with 10sp?

Looking at the 2017. I believe hp is up and torque up 50 pounds. Also 10 speed.
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Old 10-16-2016, 07:58 PM   #32
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Nice. My 2012 never lacked power
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Old 10-16-2016, 08:02 PM   #33
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Where are we getting the 10,000lb TT weights from?
Read my last reply, where I quoted the OP: "Ford seems to think max tow is in the 10,000 range."

I was explaining that a 10k tow rating does not mean you can tow a 10k TT without being overloaded.

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Trailer is 6040 pounds dry. Hitch weight 685. Seems to be within reason to me. What do you think?
I think use of dry weights means you are heading for an overloaded towing condition.

If that trailer weighs 7,500 pounds when wet and loaded for the road, that's an average tongue weight of 975 pounds. Add 113 pounds for a good WD hitch with built-in sway control, such as my Reese Strait-Line trunnion bar hitch, and total hitch weight is 1,088 pounds. 1,088 is a lot more than 685, and uses a big chunk of your limited payload capacity.
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:03 PM   #34
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The right F150 won't blink at that tongue weight.

He should have around 1700lbs with that model.

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This is my first posting. We are about to purchase a TT and these are the specs of our 2016 F150. What's max recommended TT Weight for us? Hopefully this will also apply to the OP. We're looking at trailers with empty weights ranging between 5500-6200lbs and max loaded weight of 7000-7700 lbs. is that reasonable?

We have a 2016 XLT SCrew 4x2, W/3.5EB and Max Trailer tow package.
Truck specs;
4.538 lb weight
6,800 lb GVWR
1,964 lb Max Combined Weight Occupants and Cargo
3.55 E-Lock rear

According to Fords Towing Guide, as configured;
1,220 Max Tongue Load
11.800 Max Loaded Trailer Weight
17,000 lb GCWR max combined weight.
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We're looking at trailers with empty weights ranging between 5500-6200lbs and max loaded weight of 7000-7700 lbs. is that reasonable?
IMO, yes. You have a payload rating higher than some Powerstroke F250.

A true way of knowing would be to load your truck up like you are going camping and hit a scale and weigh your axles individually. Your biggest limitation will be the RAWR of 3800lbs.
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bigdomino I'd like to add my 2 cents to the mix. 1st of all, there are several posts in this thread from some uninformed or very misinformed posters. There are F-150's that can be had that can tow what your looking at with no problems but you have to do your homework.
Case in point.
I spent almost a year back in 2012 crunching numbers for a tw vehicle to pull our TT.
We decided on a '13 F-150 XLT, HD, 6'5", 3.73 Eco. Yes we special ordered it. It came with Payload Capacity of 2175#. It sets at 6480# out of 8200#'s ready to tow. We towed a 31' TT, total weight of 8400#, with a Tongue Weight of 1045#'s. Towed it with ease ...BUT ... BUT we knew it was back there on a windy day. DW wanted something a little shorter to fit in the FSCG's so we downgraded to a 29' 5er we have now with a TW of little over 8600#'s and PW of 1420#'s (scaled weights). Talk about a world of difference. 5er & truck are a perfect match. Can't even tell it's back there even on windy days. Just do your do diligents and get the right truck to match the trailer you want. We're happy towers with our combo.
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bigdomino ... There are F-150's that can be had that can tow what your looking at with no problems but you have to do your homework..
Not only do you have to do your homework, but you'll discover that dealers don't stock the F-150 with the payload capacity you need, so you must order it and wait 6 to 8 weeks or more for delivery. Most folks want the new tow vehicle NOW without having to wait a couple of months for Ford to build and deliver it. So they compromise and wind up with "not enuff truck".
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To the OP and any naysayers...

I have a 2012 F150 with 3.5 Ecoboost, 4x4 and 3.73 gears. I pull my neighbors boat and heavy ass trailer, as well as my own dual axle enclosed trailer. I think that boat is at least 6000 lbs, my loaded trailer is 5000 lbs or more. I've pulled my friends trailer with two cars on it and I think it was about 9K. With the exception of slightly slower take off and burning more gas, there is no real difference with the trailer back there. It also stops pretty good.

These trucks will pull a load. Don't be afraid at all. If its a travel trailer that you pull 10-12 times per year a few hundred miles (a lot for most), then the benefit of having a smaller F150 truck to use as a daily driver is worth it.

Sure, you would feel better with a F250, but that doesn't mean that the F150 won't get it done. It will actually do it just fine and at 7-8K you'll get up to 60+mph on the fwy no problem and will be able to stop without any real white knuckle moments.

The only thing on mine is that I have the 6.5 ft bed. The wheel base is a foot longer than the 5.5ft bed and there is no doubt that it adds a lot to the stability. But... that long wheel base is definitely more difficult to drive around. I do it though.

Also, I have air bags. This is a cheap option and it helps keep things in balance. The brakes work better and the sway is totally under control when the truck and trailer are in balance. For an F150, you should get these anyway.

Get the F150. Its a nice truck with one helluva motor and outstanding brakes. Rethink the gears and go to at least 3.73 instead of 3.55. You'll need that.
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...Get the F150. Its a nice truck with one helluva motor and outstanding brakes. Rethink the gears and go to at least 3.73 instead of 3.55. You'll need that.
Agree. But it's easier said than done. On a new F-150 when you build an F-150 SuperCrew with 3.5L EcoBoost engine and 6.5' bed, then select 3.73 axle on Ford.com build&price, you see the following blurb:
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3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio also requires the following changes
Add
Heavy-Duty Payload Package
Max Trailer Tow Package
Rear View Camera with Dynamic Hitch Assist
$3,040 Net Price Change
Do you want to continue?
No Yes
"

Same website, if you try to order the shorty bed, you won't see an option for a 3.73 axle ratio. I suppose that's because 3.73 includes HDPP, and HDPP is not available with the shorty bed.

So the key is not the axle ratio but the fact that with that axle ratio you'll also get heavy duty payload package (HDPP). So then you'll have "enuff truck" with enough payload capacity to tow that trailer without being overloaded.

But dealers don't stock F-150s with HDPP, so you have to order it and wait 6 to 8 weeks order and ship time for Ford to build and deliver it. If you want a new truck RIGHT NOW!, then you have to compromise- either order it and wait, or buy an F-250 or F-350 SRW RIGHT NOW out of dealer's inventory. Or make a bad decision to buy an F-150 without HDPP.

Decisions, decisions.
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There are many folks happy with their 1/2 ton.
Many of those folks up-truck sooner than later. And some that did not outfit the 1/2 ton well are stuck with either losing via depreciation or suffering until they can afford more.
I have friends that have gone the gambit on this. Most upgraded RVs, and the up-truck was mandatory.
I wish the best of luck to all.
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There are many folks happy with their 1/2 ton.
Many of those folks up-truck sooner than later. And some that did not outfit the 1/2 ton well are stuck with either losing via depreciation or suffering until they can afford more.
I have friends that have gone the gambit on this. Most upgraded RVs, and the up-truck was mandatory.
I wish the best of luck to all.
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