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Old 01-09-2012, 08:34 PM   #15
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According to FORD a duely, has only 10% more weight capacity ! That's on there F series trucks! Could be why I prefer a Ford! (built tough) not only that when buying a new anything, wouldn't one try and keep in mind the weight of the RV that they are purchasing? And what it's manufacture recommends ? Much different when full load in on the truck bed(like a camper). Not to mention all the factory and after market air bags available to insure you have the correct capacity ? I guess we could on for ever about this debacle? It's all about personal choice really! I am sticking to my coach.
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Not to mention all the factory and after market air bags available to insure you have the correct capacity ?
Air bags, helper springs and other kluges do NOT increase the GVWR of a truck one iota. The GVWR is what the manufacturer certifies the truck for on the sticker in the driver's side door jamb. That number doesn't change with any aftermarket add-ons.

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Looking at Dutchmans website show the Destination front living room with a 1400 lb dry pin weight and a 8k-9k dry trailer weight. At those weights any new gen 2500 will work however I would suspect those numbers especially for a 40' 8" long trailer. Before buying any tow vehicle I would contact Dutchman RV for the actual weights on the Destinations of your choice.
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Dry weights are meaningless unless one plans to pull an empty RV. For tow vehicle sizing purposes, use the 5th wheel's GVWR as the total loaded weight and 20% of the 5th wheel's GVWR as the loaded pin weight.

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According to FORD a duely, has only 10% more weight capacity ! MartyB
Don't know where you are getting your information, but that is not correct. A dually will have about twice the cargo capacity of a SRW. The issue is not pulling, but cargo capacity.
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Geeeez, I detect anger? Do you check every thread for brand and grammar? Must keep you hoppin! Read the first amendment! I am not trying to hurt anyone.
I just enjoy talking with you guys! And gals.!
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We pull a 2010 37.5ft 5er with a 2010 diesel chev dually 4 dr long box. I can say from travelling through the Canadian Rockies on the old #1 highway last year I was glad of the braking, engine power and the stability of the truck. I love the long box because I don't have to worry about turning. We also have a slider, double pivot hitch. We now live on Vancouver island & the place is packed with weird parking lots & some places I go I just don't fit well because I am so big. I have learned to live with it when I park way over there in the lot & I still get dings in my doors. I pull my home behind me so I want to take all the precautions that I can. Jeannine
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Rusty! Let it go man!
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Looking at Dutchmans website show the Destination front living room with a 1400 lb dry pin weight and a 8k-9k dry trailer weight. At those weights any new gen 2500 will work however I would suspect those numbers especially for a 40' 8" long trailer. Before buying any tow vehicle I would contact Dutchman RV for the actual weights on the Destinations of your choice.
Well at least one person actually looked up the weights before declaring what truck was necessary. Assuming that the manufacturer's numbers are accurate even if this unit is loaded to a 12,000 gross weight with 20% on the pin it could be handled by most modern 3/4-ton trucks. Bigger is better when it comes to tow vehicles and a dually might arguably be a better choice for someone who is starting from scratch, but it's hardly mandatory at those weights.
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Well at least one person actually looked up the weights before declaring what truck was necessary. Assuming that the manufacturer's numbers are accurate even if this unit is loaded to a 12,000 gross weight with 20% on the pin it could be handled by most modern 3/4-ton trucks. Bigger is better when it comes to tow vehicles and a dually might arguably be a better choice for someone who is starting from scratch, but it's hardly mandatory at those weights.
20% of 12k, when added to all the other thilngs we put in our trucks, will put the majority of diesel 3/4 tons made prior to 2010, over weight. The truck might "handle" it, but still be over weight.
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An empty weight of 1400 lb dry pin weight and a 8k-9k dry trailer weight is about as light as a fifth wheel gets, or at least certainly near the low end. If you assume a real travelling weight increase with a 'safety margin' that people like to assume then that pretty much means virtually no 5th wheel unit at or above this weight above can be safely towed with a 3/4-ton truck. I don't think that jibes with reality.

Please guys, the advice to stay within limits is well taken but sometimes the focus on and and every individual number gets to the point where you end up on the edge of credibility. There are a lot of variables and a dose of common sense and reality needs to be injected as well.
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An empty weight of 1400 lb dry pin weight and a 8k-9k dry trailer weight is about as light as a fifth wheel gets, or at least certainly near the low end. If you assume a real travelling weight increase with a 'safety margin' that people like to assume then that pretty much means virtually no 5th wheel unit at or above this weight above can be safely towed with a 3/4-ton truck. I don't think that jibes with reality.
My comments were in response to your statement regarding 20% of a 12k 5th wheel...they apply as stated.
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