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Old 07-12-2015, 08:05 PM   #1
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Getting a 5'er to tow "level" - 2015 Ram 3500 DRW

I've got a 2015 Ram 3500 DRW. 36.5' 5th wheel (Carbon 327 Toy Hauler). The issue is that I'm towing a bit "nose high". In particular, this is causing compression on the left rear wheel - as Keystone puts the fuel tank in that location and I had our load slightly off center. I have about 2.5" of clearance between the top of the tire and the deck of the 5th wheel.

I've emailed Lippert to see what they think about it, but on a CAT scale, we're 11k over the rear two axles (rated for 2 x 7k). So we're not overloaded. I don't have individual axle weights.

The pin of the 5th wheel is already in the lowest position.... Alex are "flipped" from the factory...

I assume that I need to level this to spread the load out. I don't know how much nose high is acceptable.
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How nose high? 1 or two inches, I dont see a problem. More than that, you may have to add a sub frame.
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I'll need to do the geometry... I assume level is measured at the frame rails. What's the normal clearance between the bed rails and nose of a 5th wheel?

Sub-frame? I assume you mean to lift the axle/spring assembly...
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Curious to know what you find out. I am about an inch or two high on the front of my trailer (nose high) when hitched as well. I can adjust the truck bed height with the rear air bags. But, when I adjust the bags to make the truck level, the trailer is a bit nose high. If the trailer is level, then my truck is an inch or two nose high.
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What kind of hitch do you have? My Curt Q20 was adjustable by several inches and so is my Hensley TS3. I'd swap hitches if it's only off within the tolerances of what the hitch could offset. Of course I'm assuming you have a hitch that can't be adjusted or it's already at its lowest point.
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What is your bed clearance on level ground?
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What is your bed clearance on level ground?
I have the same hitch. How much clearance do you have from the top of your tailgate to the bottom of your trailer? Thanks
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I'll check on that.
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I have the same hitch. How much clearance do you have from the top of your tailgate to the bottom of your trailer? Thanks
I did not measure, I am guessing 7-8". I have no down adjustment on my hitch or up on the hitch. I should have had the 2" spacer installed between the MorRyde IS and bottom of the frame.

Thinking about modifying the B&W side adjustable plates so they can be lowered a couple inches or whatever I need. Really don't want to add the risers.
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Are you in the lowest holes of the B&W hitch side plates? That is where mine is set to. I am at the over axle, and lowest holes of the side plates... If you adjust the side plates, those bolts torque to 90 ft lbs when you reinstall. I am pulling with about 6 inches clearance and my hitch head is low enough to clos my Roll N Lock cover above it. That gets me to level on the camper. Good luck.
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Ah 6 inches. I think I am at about 7 to 8 inches clearance with the Curt Q20 at the highest setting. I will go down a notch and try that
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I have a pullrite auto slider 4400, 18k/20k - depending on what you read. No height adjustments can be made.. The kingpin is already set up for the lowest possible height.
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Are you in the lowest holes of the B&W hitch side plates? That is where mine is set to. I am at the over axle, and lowest holes of the side plates... If you adjust the side plates, those bolts torque to 90 ft lbs when you reinstall. I am pulling with about 6 inches clearance and my hitch head is low enough to clos my Roll N Lock cover above it. That gets me to level on the camper. Good luck.
I was not real clear. My B&W is set full forward and the adjust,went on the side hitch supports are mounted in the lowest holes. The TrailAir hitch is up as far as possible and have I would guess 7-8" bed clearance. So I will look into fibbing up the side pcs to loser them about 2" or what ever is actually to end up at 6" clearance and then the RV will ride close enough to level.
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I was not real clear. My B&W is set full forward and the adjust,went on the side hitch supports are mounted in the lowest holes. The TrailAir hitch is up as far as possible and have I would guess 7-8" bed clearance. So I will look into fibbing up the side pcs to loser them about 2" or what ever is actually to end up at 6" clearance and then the RV will ride close enough to level.

Do you have the 2" lift on your trailer 12V?

Edit- just read that you do. I had them put the lift on our trailer and I'm curious where I'll need to put the hitch.

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