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Old 11-21-2017, 08:24 PM   #1
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GMC Yukon 2500 or Suburban 2500 as a tow vehicle

We are currently towing a 2017 Crossroads Z328sb which weighs 7400lbs dry with a F150, with a towing capacity of 11400 lbs and cargo carrying capacity if 1700lbs and change. We have a family of 6, so are right at the top of our CCC.

Thinking of buying a used Yukon 2500, with CCC of 2400lbs and towing capacity of 9400lbs.

What do you think?
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:03 PM   #2
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I would think you would be around 90% of your towing capacity. Also the suv might be a rougher tow and probably not as much power. We often take two vehicles since my truck doesn’t hold many people comfortably.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:56 AM   #3
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You'll have more payload with a pickup by far and it will tow the trailer better. IMO an SUV loaded with 6 people plus gear and a loaded trailer will put you over its limits.
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If that driver would have used his trailer brakes he may have been able to stop that fishtailing. Maybe, but I bet he was overloaded as well among other things.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:13 AM   #6
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If you need more passenger room and decent towing performance, take a look at full size passenger vans. IMHO much more capable tow vehicles than the modern big SUV's. A one ton van with a big gasser or diesel will do the job nicely. We tow a 8900 lb, 34' trailer with a 2005 Ford E350 with the 6.0L diesel, and it is a nice handling rig.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:25 PM   #7
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Thinking of vans, here's the one I would order to tow your trailer:

2018 Transit-350 Cargo Van w/Medium Roof height
⦁ Regular wheelbase
⦁ 3.5L EcoBoost® V6 Engine
⦁ Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: 9500 GVWR
⦁ 3.73 Limited-slip Rear Axle
⦁ 6-Speed Automatic Overdrive with SelectShift®
Max. When Properly Equipped
Payload: 4,350 lbs
Towing: 6,900 lbs

The old Ford E-350 full-size vans have gone away, replaced by the more efficient Transit full-size van. They offer a diesel engine, but it's a weakling without enough power to tow much of a travel trailer. The 3.5L EcoBoost is a towing monster, so that's the engine you'd want.

The Transit passenger van does not have options for enough towing capacity, so you need to order a cargo van, then add a custom interior. Several van conversion companies will make the interior to your specs, or you can do what I did and DIY.

Years ago, I ordered the fanciest cargo van available, with finished interior walls and ceiling, but with a bare metal floor. Then I added plywood, 2" high-density foam, and premium Berber carpet over the floor. I found seats in a bone yard and added them. I installed a seperate sterio with headphones in the back, so the kids could blow out their brains with rock music while DW and I enjoyed our "elevator" music. My kids loved their roomy van for long trips.

Here's a comparable 2018 Ford full-size Transit cargo van I build&priced on Ford.com that would be a good starting place for building a custom trailer-towing van. You might have a hard time locating something like this on the used market.

⦁ $36,865 Base MSRP
⦁ $6,255 Total of Options
⦁ $1,395 Destination Charges
⦁ $44,515 Total MSRP

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⦁ $36,865 2018 Transit Cargo Van XL 350, Medium Roof, 130” Wheelbase, 3.5L EcoBoost® V6 Engine, 6-Speed Automatic Overdrive with SelectShift® Transmission, 3.73 limited-slip Rear Axle

Paint
⦁ $150 White Gold. In the arid Southwest, you must have a light color paint, and this one is ideal without being a common boring white.

Equipment Groups
⦁ $485 Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow Package
⦁ $1,730 Cargo Van Premium Package
Exterior
⦁ $450 Windows-All-Around, Fixed
⦁ $675 Privacy Glass
⦁ $655 Extended Length Running Boards
⦁ $95 Remote Keyless-Entry Keypad
⦁ $220 Long-Arm Power Heated Tow Mirrors with Turn Signals
⦁ $230 Trailer Brake Controller
⦁ $1,270 AM/FM Stereo with SYNC® 3 and Navigation

The above list does not any options that were included as part of another option, such as the cruise control that's part of the Cargo Van Premium Package.

Here's the link to get you started on build and pricing (MSRP) a 2018 Transit cargo van:
https://shop.ford.com/build/transitv...VRE.20C.XL.%5D

If you prefer GM, the 2017 Express passenger van with tiny diesel engine has these specs:

Trailering & Payload

GCWR (lbs.) 13000 lbs
Max Conventional Trailering (lbs.) 6500 lbs

The Chevy/GMC passenger vans will cost close to the same as the Ford Transit, but don't require a van conversion interior to get almost the same tow rating (6,500 for the GM diesel, 6,900 for the Transit 3.5L EcoBoost).

For the Dodge Boys, Ram also has a modern cargo van similar to the Ford Transit-350, but the max tow rating of the 2017 Ram 3500 window van is only 5,100 pounds, same as the Transit passenger van. Not enough to tow your trailer.
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Tow ratings on vans stink now that they've all gone to the euro van model.

The OPs trailer weighs 7400 dry...

130" wheelbase on a Suburban/Yukon, right? Pretty short for a ~36' TT.
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A van won't work. For other reasons I need a 4 x 4. I'm specifically looking at the 2500 Yukon or Suburban.

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A van won't work. For other reasons I need a 4 x 4. I'm specifically looking at the 2500 Yukon or Suburban.
Your F-150 is obviously overloaded with a TT that has dry weight of 7,400.

If an unmodified van won't work, remember that Quigley has been converting vans to 4x4 for years.
4x4 Vans : Quigley Motor Company, Inc.

If not a 4x4 van, then your next best choice is an F-350 CrewCab with single rear wheels (SRW). The large 2500 SUVs from GM are heavy and don't have as much payload capacity as a 2500 pickup. Plus they don't make them anymore. But if you can find a used Suburban 2500, it will certainly be a lot better than a half-ton pickup.

But be prepared to have to be the nasty old weight police when your family wants to haul more weight in the SUV. As a general rule, the 2500 Suburban can haul either a wagon load of family and stuff, or a decent-sized TT, but not both at the same time without exceeding the payload capacity of the SUV.
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Actually no. We are well under our towing capacity when fully loaded, but right at the top of CCC.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:36 PM   #12
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I've got a seller telling me that his 2013 suburban with the towing package has a cargo carrying capacity of 2400lbs, which is about 700 lbs more than we have now. I haven't been able to verify that. Any idea if that capacity is right?
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My reference point - I had a ‘05 Suburban 2500 with an 8.1 engine pulling a 30 ft, 7200 GVWR trailer and had to get a ProPride hitch to get the sway under control. With the Yukon having a shorter wheelbase than the Burb, it would have been a towing nightmare.
Thinking in terms of safety, I personally would not use either SUV to pull a trailer as big as the Z328SB. This is mainly due to the short wheelbase - short at least when compared to that of a truck. An HD truck would obviously make the best tow vehicle.
With a family of 6 taking a second vehicle is probably the best option.
Good luck with your decision.
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What about the Ford Excursion?
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