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12-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Just wondering....if a truck has a ball installed for a goose neck hitch, can the pin box on a 5th wheel be changed to work with this ball hookup????? or should the ball receiver be removed and the 5th wheel hitch be installed? 
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12-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Just wondering....if a truck has a ball installed for a goose neck hitch, can the pin box on a 5th wheel be changed to work with this ball hookup????? or should the ball receiver be removed and the 5th wheel hitch be installed?
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12-10-2007, 03:08 AM
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There are various adapters on the market that hook to the king pin of a 5th wheel trailer on one end, and accept a goose neck ball on the other, however I'm not a big fan of those.
They basically act like putting a pipe over a ratchet handle, with the extra leverage amplifying the forces put on the 5th wheel frame.
Before considering one of those, I'd check with the maker of the 5th wheel frame to make sure it's safe and warranty approved.
B&W's turnover goose neck ball will also accept their companion 5th wheel hitch, which is a good solution if you need to tow a goose neck trailer and also a 5th wheel RV...
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12-10-2007, 04:45 AM
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Brad,
I'd suggest a search on "gooseneck adapter". These devices significantly increase the torques and moments applied to a 5th wheel frame - forces that the frame probably wasn't designed to handle. Any number of users have reported frame damage in the pinbox area.
I'd second the recommendation of the B&W turnoverball gooseneck with their companion 5th wheel hitch if you need the capability to tow both goosenecks and 5th wheel trailers.
Rusty
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12-10-2007, 06:45 AM
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Thanks for the advise. The truck I bought has the ball system in it...just thought I wouldn't install my 5th hitch, unless it was absolutely required. With that said, I'll go ahead and install my hitch. Thanks...Brad 
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12-10-2007, 06:47 PM
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If the largest trailer frame manufacturer says their frames are not strong enough to withstand the forced imposed by a gooseneck adapter, I believe them. Zieman/Lippert frame warranty
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01-21-2008, 07:39 AM
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I pulled a 95 dutchman for 60,000 miles plus with a gooseneck adapter and never had an issue. Gave me lots of extra room in the bed. That said, the 95 had a full box beam frame where most nowdays are C-Channel. I don't think i would put one on a C-Channel frame................
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01-21-2008, 01:56 PM
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Have you considered a hiddenhitch.com fifth wheel adapter?
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01-22-2008, 04:17 AM
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If you need the capabilities to tow a gooseneck and a 5th wheel trailer, I would suggest looking at the B&W turnoverball gooseneck with its companion 5th wheel hitch. I cannot recommend usage of the gooseneck adapters as they can overstress the 5th wheel trailer frame and result in severe structural damage or failure.
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01-25-2008, 08:22 PM
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Yeah, especially if the existing goose hitch you have is the B&W turnover ball. Then you'd just have to pick up the "Companion" 5th wheel hitch.
I'm pretty happy with mine. It pivots 4 ways, has a good range of adjustability, and is easy to visually verify that the jaws are on the king pin. It also leaves the bed flat when removed, which is nice.
The only drawback is that it requires tools to remove/install.
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01-26-2008, 01:35 PM
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Yup, what Jeff said. 
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