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Old 11-10-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Grand Design Momentum 380th

We are looking at the Grand Design Momentum 380th with a GVWR of 19,500 and dry weight of 15,500 and a hitch weight of 2,950 and a cargo capacity of 4,200. We are trying to figure out with a Ram 3500 DRW would work or if we have to bump up to a F450 or Ram 4500.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:45 PM   #2
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At a gross of 19500, the pin weight is going to be around 4000. you will need either of the 4500 series mentioned, at least.
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:02 PM   #3
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I don't know about Dodge but my 15 F350 DRW 4 x 4 with 3:73 gears will tow 23,200 with max pin of 5720. Dodge most likely has towing info on their website just like Ford. I recommend you look there and see for yourself what your truck is capable of then you'll know for sure. You'll also want to know the gears you have. I think Dodge uses 4:10's but I'm not sure about that. If you don't have that info you can get it from your VIN #.
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I don't know about Ram, but a 2012-up Ford F-350 dually CrewCab with diesel engine has net payload capacity well over the 4,000 pounds required to haul the hitch weight of that trailer. "Tow rating" is 21,500 when the truck is empty, so you could haul over 1,000 pounds of people and stuff in the truck without exceeding the GCWR or GVWR of the F-350 DRW diesel.

If you don't add a very heavy toolbox or auxiliary fuel tank in the bed or a crewcab full of linebackers, then the 3500 should do the job without being overloaded. But weigh the wet and loaded rig when on the road, to double-check that the estimates are valid. If you load heavy, you may need to be sure to travel with empty holding tanks.
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Old 11-17-2014, 10:30 PM   #5
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My Chevy dually tows my 19,000 GVWR Voltage just fine. The lawyers at Chevy say my dually has a 5th wheel towing capacity of 22,500 and my door sticker says I have a 5,000 pound payload capacity. You don't need a bigger capacity truck but get one if you want it.

BTW, I ran into a guy towing a Momentum 385TH with a SRW GMC Denali. He says it tows without a problem.
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Old 12-31-2014, 06:02 PM   #6
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Grand Design Momentum 380TH is on the dealer lot looking to come home with us or at least to my mothers over sized driveway that already holds a class A, and class C. Would replace class A with GDM, but as soon as I can get the truck DW wants, 3500 Laramie Longhorn dually,

hope all have safe 2015 on the road
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I'd buy the Ram. Enjoy............
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Old 12-31-2014, 06:45 PM   #8
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I'd buy the Ram. Enjoy............
X2 on the ram. The Laramie longhorn is class above the others. Also just looked at Grand design 5ers at lazy days and they look very promising as a start up company. Very nice.

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We're on our 3rd Chrysler/Jeep/Ram dealership in 3 years. I prefer dealing with a better operation than most Ram dealerships are.

Give me the Ford SuperDuty anytime, especially since our local dealer is #1 in customer satisfaction in the U.S. He also has a dedicated separate SuperDuty shop.
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The Ram 3500 dually we have is an awesome tow rig.
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Get the 3500 with the Aisen tranny you can even order it with dual alternaters. Go with 410 or 370 with the six speed Aisen tranny it has more grunt starting out . It is good tranny . Same class as an Allison. The Cummins engine is a great work horse. You will also get the higher rated 865 lb of torque. Fiat was the best thimg that has happened to Ram . The spent a ton of money on new tooling and the interior and exterior fit and finish take a back seat to no other truck. JMO
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Get the 3500 with the Aisen tranny you can even order it with dual alternaters. Go with 410 or 370 with the six speed Aisen tranny it has more grunt starting out . It is good tranny . Same class as an Allison. The Cummins engine is a great work horse. You will also get the higher rated 865 lb of torque. Fiat was the best thimg that has happened to Ram . The spent a ton of money on new tooling and the interior and exterior fit and finish take a back seat to no other truck. JMO
I like the new Rams, but I wonder what the reasons were that Consumer Reports rated the new Rams as not recommended. Stated that the reliability was not up to the level of Ford or GM.
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Go read what truckin mags say . I have owned them since 94 and the new ones aee the best JMO Reas Turbo Diesel Register. On line
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Personal opinions on forums are a great help, but, you are the one spending tens of thousands of dollars on the rig. You better know for sure from your own research what TV you want. Once you sign the papers, it's yours.
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