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Cowpie1 · 02-19-2018, 04:55 AM

And overall vehicle build. Just look under a F-150 then go over and look under a F-250. Frame, Suspension, Brakes, etc are all beefed up. And it is a complete package that makes a good towing vehicle. Not just the engine and trans.

wandering1 · 02-19-2018, 05:33 AM

Air bags might keep your truck from sagging but does not help the towing capability of your truck.

tuffr2 · 02-19-2018, 09:33 AM

To add to the Cowpie post. A F-250 Will weigh 2,000lbs more than a F-150. That 2,000lbs is used for bigger everything. Bigger frame, bigger brakes, longer wheel base etc etc.

Soppy · 02-19-2018, 11:35 AM

The ecoboost will have the power , but the truck is not built heavy enough for that load. It's not just the suspension , but the frame and everything else is just not heavy enough. I would upgrade to at least a 3/4 ton.

bwinger73 · 02-20-2018, 08:03 AM

I was in your situation last year. Upgraded from a pop up to a TT weighing very close to yours. I had a F150 as well. After 3 trips I was truck shopping. I had added airbags to the F150 to see if that helps with the ride. It didn't. Waste of money. Raised the rear a little but that was it. I now have a Ram 2500 gasser. I know feel like I am driving the TT and not to TT driving me with the F150. It was not fun to drive and I only go maybe 2 hours away to camp. I couldn't imagine driving much further. Very stressful driving when you are getting pushed around. For our safety and the people around me I upgraded right away. If you can afford to upgrade your TV now then do it and put the money you would have spent on the airbags on the new TV.

dcarver · 02-20-2018, 05:44 PM

I agree a larger truck is needed. BUT it does sound as though the OP is going to tow with what he's got until he can upgrade the truck. Not everyone can go out and get both so I understand the situation. If I had to tow it with the f150 I'd keep it as light as possible and not pack unnecessary stuff, shop when you get to your destination, LT tires on the truck, air bags, equalizer 4pt hitch, something to monitor transmission temp if yours doesn't have the gauge, drive 60mph with OD locked out. Purchasing tires and air bags will be over a grand so you could put that towards the new truck.

manderson2228 · 02-20-2018, 07:43 PM

Airbags... no.. New truck yes. f250 or f350 you dont have enough truck right now.

Oldelevatorman · 02-20-2018, 10:32 PM

Forget airbags, timbrens are cheaper if you're going to upgrade truck at some point. I had them on my '11 f150 eco hauling a big TT!

1320Fastback · 02-20-2018, 11:17 PM

I would get E rated tires before airbags with that load, short of getting a proper rated truck.

windman · 02-21-2018, 07:08 PM

A lot of saying about trailer pushing the truck because it is heavier than the tractor.
What about 18 wheelers. do the all have a tractor heavier than the trailer?

My F-150 has the HDPP making GWVR of 7850 lbs and a rear GAWR of 4800 lbs with 2473 lbs of payload. Are you saying I would be on the edge of towing a 8500 lbs TT?

There are F-250 out there with less payload that I have.

Brinkman01 what is your GVWR and payload?

Wundertaker · 02-21-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowpie1

You might want to consider investing in another pickup instead of trying to make yours more of what it is not.

This is why the old maxim.. "buy the trailer you want and then buy the truck to pull it" rings true.

Disagree....this goes back to an old thread...another reason to "buy the truck first...then the RV."! Go the other way and you'll always be chasing your next RV with yet ANOTHER T.V.!

If you haven't noticed, a quality T.V. is very often MORE EXPENSIVE THAN YOUR RV....your choice!

JIMNLIN · 02-21-2018, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by windman

A lot of saying about trailer pushing the truck because it is heavier than the tractor.
What about 18 wheelers. do the all have a tractor heavier than the trailer?

My F-150 has the HDPP making GWVR of 7850 lbs and a rear GAWR of 4800 lbs with 2473 lbs of payload. Are you saying I would be on the edge of towing a 8500 lbs TT?

There are F-250 out there with less payload that I have.

Brinkman01 what is your GVWR and payload?

Good post and one anyone considering a F150 should read.
I don't see how anyone could make a determination the OPs truck won't be up to the task when we have no idea which F150 package he has. W

Others with a F150 and had issues pulling a small TT like those that are being mentioned simply made the wrong choice in pacakges.

All we need to make a determination is the year model....GVWR.....RAWR package.....gear ratio.

Like windmans truck the F150HD can have 8200-7850 GVWR and 4800 rawr for around 2400-2500 lbs payload in the bed.

Next down can be a 7550 gvwr and 4550 rawr for approx 2100-2200 lbs in the bed.

On down to a 7000-7050 gvwr and 4050 rawr for maybe 1800 lbs in the bed.

And one most seem to choose and use it as a example is a F150 6800 gvwr and small 3800 rawr with a for approx 1200-1300 lb payload in the bed.

Of course actual scaled axle weights can give us actual payloads available...maybe the OP can shed some light on which F150 truck he has

windman · 02-21-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JIMNLIN

All we need to make a determination is the year model....GVWR.....RAWR package.....gear ratio

And forgot the say I have the 3.73 diff

Demiles · 02-22-2018, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by windman

A lot of saying about trailer pushing the truck because it is heavier than the tractor.
What about 18 wheelers. do the all have a tractor heavier than the trailer?

My F-150 has the HDPP making GWVR of 7850 lbs and a rear GAWR of 4800 lbs with 2473 lbs of payload. Are you saying I would be on the edge of towing a 8500 lbs TT?

There are F-250 out there with less payload that I have.

Brinkman01 what is your GVWR and payload?

Tractors have high cornering stiffness due to the amount of tires they have at the rear axle. Even then there are jackknifed and or roll over accidents daily on our highways.
How well any combo will tow depends on characteristics of both truck and trailer. When the TV weight is only 5300lbs the margin of safety/error can be greatly reduced at high trailer and hitch weights no matter how much payload rating you have. So yes it is possible you could have a hard time towing a 8500lb trailer that a f250 weighing 2000lbs more does with ease. It’s really basic physics that can be and has been proven. A high payload rating doesn’t mean that a vehicle will tow well, there much more to consider.