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Old 05-13-2011, 07:16 PM   #15
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Most everything was in the camper when it was weighed except bedding, clothes and dogfood that I carry in the van. I'm thinking that I'll add the WD hitch, transmission cooler and stay away from hills for the summer season then upgrade the van. Hopefully I can find something that I can use the hitch on, it is a class lll and will fit many vehicles. I will also weigh the loaded van and check the total weight. I've removed everything but the front seats to tote the pups around so the van should actually be lighter than normal. I'd consider a six cylinder pick-up but don't think my big dog (50 pounds but very tall) would have enough room if anyone goes along so will have to look ar SUVs. Some have a 5000# towing capacity which is enough for this trailer. If only I could win a small lottery jackpot...
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If the Astro van has the tow package it would be OK. The 4.3L is plenty strong with the right transmission. The problem with the Astro van is the rear suspension being on the weak side and can get a little bouncy. With the right WD hitch, it can be made to work

Also in Europe, the highway speeds are lower than what we have here, so the smaller vehicles will be another option.

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In the UK, the freeway speed limit is 70 mph and in some European nations (particularly Germany) there's no limit. On a business trip to Germany a while back, the company I was visiting sent a car to pick us up at the airport. On the way to the plant, we were doing well over 100 mph on the autobahn.

Also, I can't see how a diesel engine 20 percent smaller than a 3.5L gasoline engine would allow a 90 percent increase in rated tow weight for an otherwise identical minivan.
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A diesel by nature of the design, produces more torque and at a lower RPM. Have you ever driven a VW Jetta with the TDI diesel. It is a long way from being classified as a slow vehicle.

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Also, I can't see how a diesel engine 20 percent smaller than a 3.5L gasoline engine would allow a 90 percent increase in rated tow weight for an otherwise identical minivan.
There's an old hot rodder's saying, "There's no replacement for displacement", but actually there is. It's called BOOST (or, more correctly, mass airflow).

A turbocharged diesel engine isn't directly comparable in displacement to a naturally aspirated gasoline engine.

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I don't think the diesel in the UK version of the Kia is a turbo.
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I don't know, but that would be surprising since it would struggle to meet current European emissions standards if it weren't turbocharged. The old naturally aspirated diesels were pretty dirty insofar as emissions are concerned. Remember the trucks in the 50s and 60s with the "coal" (black smoke) pouring from the exhaust?

I just spent a couple of minutes Googling the Kia Sorento's 2.2 CRDi diesel engine - here's what I found in one of the Brit car mags:

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The Sorento’s star attraction is the new 194bhp 2.2-litre turbodiesel. This is undoubtedly the best in the class at the moment, with an easy-spinning character and plenty of low-end torque. Mated to either the new six-speed manual or an automatic gearbox, it provides comfortable overtaking ability and relaxed, economical cruising.
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Guess that settles it, I just throw a deisel turbo engine into my current Kia and it will be strong enough to tow my TT. Wonder what that would cost?
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Yep, sorry for the bunny trail. I know it doesn't help your immediate situation.

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just spent a couple of minutes Googling the Kia Sorento's 2.2 CRDi diesel engine - here's what I found in one of the Brit car mags:



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You guys are great. If I knew half as much, I wouldn't have gotten myself into this situation.
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The "weight Nazis" would be horrified by my uncle in England. They had an 18' TT that was "coachbuilt", meaning that the body was framed in oak with aluminum skins and lots of insulation. I don't know what it weighed, but it certainly wasn't a lightweight.

They towed that thing with an Austin Cambridge sedan and went all over Europe with it. They particularly enjoyed Switzerland and the Black Forest region of Germany. The Cambridge had a four-cylinder 1500 cc engine, maybe 50 horsepower on a good day, a 4-speed stickshift gearbox and drum brakes all round.

Things were different then, but Europe still has much more generous towing capacity ratings than the US on the same vehicles.
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One thing different in Europe is the way they design their trailers and their approach to towing. European trailers seem to be very light on the hitch, and thus don't need or use weight-distribution hitches like we do, generally. If this is correct, then it is logical the vehicles are rated for more trailer weight, because they are not burdened with as much hitch weight.

How they handle the sway situation I don't know.
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1994 Astro Van w/tow package has 5500 lb limit...
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