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Old 02-14-2014, 01:28 PM   #1
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Red face High tailgate and sides on new dodge 3500 dually

We have just purchased a new RAM 3500 Dually 4X4 and did not check the bed/tailgate height. The tailgate is 591/2 inches high and the distance fron the Montana front to ground is approximately 59 inches or 60 inches. Has anyone else had similar issues with high truck bed sides? If so what did you do to resolve the issue. My hitch weight is about 2100 pounds so I guess the truck will sit down about 2 inches maybe. My hitch dealer has suggested putting a 5 inch tube under the frame and welding it to frame and putting springs to it. Not sure about effect on CG for turns stability.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:43 PM   #2
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Some dually owners put a 2" lift on the front or take out the 2" spacer under the leaf spring pack on the rear end. After you use it a few times the rear will settle in and be spot on level when you tow. Dually's give you a good foot print for stability. To have a worry free emissions system use you tow haul mode & turbo (engine brake) 24/7. Added air bags after about a year to take the bounce out while on I40 in AR.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:05 PM   #3
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Instead of rigging things up, I would drop down the pin box on the trailer, and raise the hitch on the truck.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:21 PM   #4
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Instead of rigging things up, I would drop down the pin box on the trailer, and raise the hitch on the truck.
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Old 02-14-2014, 04:33 PM   #5
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We have just purchased a new RAM 3500 Dually 4X4 and did not check the bed/tailgate height. The tailgate is 591/2 inches high and the distance fron the Montana front to ground is approximately 59 inches or 60 inches. Has anyone else had similar issues with high truck bed sides? If so what did you do to resolve the issue. My hitch weight is about 2100 pounds so I guess the truck will sit down about 2 inches maybe. My hitch dealer has suggested putting a 5 inch tube under the frame and welding it to frame and putting springs to it. Not sure about effect on CG for turns stability.
Here is a thread from Turbo Diesel Register . Com on the new 2104 Ram Trucks concerning your same issue. The thread is 7 pages long but will worth reading. The couple who are posting this thread have been Rving for many years and have owned other Ram diesel trucks in the past. They have been members of TDR since Dec of 2003, which I am a member also since 2008.

I would also recommend that you consider joining this will informed group of Ram truck owners; several of the members of this forum are members of TDR too.


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Do not weld on the frame at all this will void your warranty on the truck. The frame is high strength steel rated at 50ksi and takes pre and post heat to weld correctly.
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I have the same issue with my Silverado 2500HD 4X4. I would like to see AirLift or Firestone develop helper bags for 5th wheels. That way they could be raised to level the trailer after it is hitched up and lowered at the campsite so the steps aren't so high.
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My F250 was to high for previous unit so I had to remove the spacers and made it same height as a 2wd.

Drive shaft angle has to be checked for vibration while towing. It was common practice when Ford came out in 1999 with the new SD 4x4.
That's the reason I do not like the 350/3500 SRW. They have taller spacers to allow more spring flex while keeping shaft in line.
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This thread makes me think of hauler beds. lol
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Hitch up the truck/trailer combo and see where you are. Depending on the type of suspension on the trailer you can "flip" the axles, or do as you said, raise the suspension mounting points the needed amount. I would recommend against trying to lower the truck.
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Hitch up the truck/trailer combo and see where you are. Depending on the type of suspension on the trailer you can "flip" the axles, or do as you said, raise the suspension mounting points the needed amount. I would recommend against trying to lower the truck.
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That will still keep the bed the same depth and not raise the trailer away from the rails that much; more like raise it from the tail gate.
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