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Old 07-24-2016, 12:03 PM   #1
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Hitch and truck report.

We just got back from our first long trip with the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Hitch (non aluminum, rail mount) and first mountain trip with the F250 6.7.
We had not been out of Florida with the hitch since we got it in May. After a 1,542 mile round trip to the Smoky Mountains, I have nothing but good to say about the hitch. Quite, smooth and no chucking or bucking. It performed as advertised and was a pleasant experience, two thumbs up!
As noted by many posters before, I can add a great review on the F250 w/6.7 and exhaust brake. Biggest grade was 7% with a few 6 1/2 thrown in and between the tow/haul and the exhaust brake I don't remember having to touch the pedal going downhill at all! I realize I didn't exactly cross the Rockies but I would not hesitate to take that trip either. The combo worked great and I just thought I would give an honest evaluation of our experience. Happy camping, be safe!
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Did you weigh the rig on a CAT scale in the middle of the trip to see whether your F-250 was overloaded? That 5er has GVWR of almost 12,000 pounds, which is about the upper limit of 5er weight for an F-250 PSD CrewCab 4x4 with a normal load of people and stuff without being overloaded over the GVWR of the F-250. Dry pin weight is 15.7% of dry trailer weight. If your pin weight was the normal 17% of wet and loaded trailer weight, and you loaded the trailer to only 11,000 pounds, that would be 1870 pin weight. Add the weight of the installed hitch and that's almost 2,000 pounds of hitch weight. With 10,000 pounds GVWR of the F-250, that leaves 8,000 pounds for the weight of the wet and loaded pickup.
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No did not weigh while traveling. Weighed loaded in the past at just over 11k. Just my wife, dog and me in the truck don't carry anything besides the tripod and the hitch weighs 49 lbs. Don't know where you got 12k as tow capacity but Trailer Life towing specs rate my truck at 15.9k for 5th wheel towing and 14k for travel trailer.
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Don't know where you got 12k as tow capacity but Trailer Life towing specs rate my truck at 15.9k for 5th wheel towing and 14k for travel trailer.
Trailer Life towing specs are copied from the Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide. Those specs are extremely optimistic because they assume a tow vehicle with no options not required to achieve that tow rating, and absolutely nothing in the tow vehicle except a skinny driver.

My 99.5 F-250 had a tow rating over 13,000 pounds, but I was overloaded over the payload capacity of my F-250 with my 25' 5er with one SuperSlide that grossed only 7,900 pounds.

My current F-150 has a tow rating of over 8,000 pounds, but I'm overloaded with my 21' TT that weighs less than 5,000 pounds when wet and loaded on the road.

So ignore those Ford tow ratings and determine your own. Weigh the wet and loaded rig, with you and everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Load the trailer with everything that will be in it when towing, including any fresh water you haul to flush the pottie when on the road.

A CAT scale will give you four weights - front axle, drive axle, trailer axles and gross combined vehicle weight. Add the weights on the front and drive axles and compare to the 10,000 GVWR of your F-250. Compare the weight on the trailer axles to the combined GAWR of the trailer axles. Compare the weight of the gross combined vehicle to the GCWR of your F-250.

Through over 15 years of being a moderator on TheDieselStop.com (forums for Ford diesel truck enthusiasts) I've learned that around 12,000 pounds is the limit for most people with the most popular F-250 tow vehicle = PSD, 4x4, CrewCab when hauling their normal family, tools, options, and campfire wood as well as the trailer without being overloaded. Like me, they cannot get close to the GCWR or tow rating, because they run out of payload capacity before they load the trailer that heavy.

The tow rating for a travel trailer is limited by the weight capacity of the receiver hitch. So you care about the tow rating for a 5er. Your 5er tow rating is 15,100 per the 2015 Ford RV and Trailer Towing guide. But even that tow rating is still exaggerated, as the CAT scale will prove.
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We just got back from our first long trip with the Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Hitch (non aluminum, rail mount) and first mountain trip with the F250 6.7.
We had not been out of Florida with the hitch since we got it in May. After a 1,542 mile round trip to the Smoky Mountains, I have nothing but good to say about the hitch. Quite, smooth and no chucking or bucking. It performed as advertised and was a pleasant experience, two thumbs up!
As noted by many posters before, I can add a great review on the F250 w/6.7 and exhaust brake. Biggest grade was 7% with a few 6 1/2 thrown in and between the tow/haul and the exhaust brake I don't remember having to touch the pedal going downhill at all! I realize I didn't exactly cross the Rockies but I would not hesitate to take that trip either. The combo worked great and I just thought I would give an honest evaluation of our experience. Happy camping, be safe!
I almost bought this just before changing my mind to a TT from a 5r. Of course I got the Andersen no sway WD hitch. Quiet. So easy to prep and undo. Love it. Couldn't be happier with mine. Great to hear you had a great journey.
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Glad you like the Andersen. I have about 1,500 miles on mine (and the fiver) and love mine too. Easy to connect / disconnect, smooth as silk, and light weight.
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