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Old 05-17-2011, 03:34 AM   #29
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Richard,

Please read the statement again. It doesn't say that ALL 3/4 ton truck owners want to ignore GVWR and GCWR limits. What it does say is that, in my experience, most of those who DO want to ignore GVWR and GCWR limits are towing 5th wheels with 3/4 ton trucks - typically, 5th wheels that put them well over their GVWRs.

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Sorry, I thought you were one of those type folks that think a Ranger/S10/1500/2500/3500 truck comes under 20000 lb max axle weight laws like one web site forum mod pushes.
Ummm....which "web site forum mod" might you be referring to?

On the off chance that you've picked up on an example I've used in the past, let's see the rest of the story.

It's not unusual on these weight threads to have someone offer the following advice to an individual who finds himself running over his truck's RAWR: "Just upgrade your tires to some with a higher weight rating, and you'll be fine."

In point of fact, upgrading the tires hasn't changed the manufacturer's RAWR shown on the vehicle's door sticker one iota. To illustrate this, I've used the extreme example of taking this advice and applying it to a Ford Ranger by saying: "If I take this advice and bolt some Rickson 19.5" wheels and appropriate tires on my 4 cylinder/automatic transmission Ford Ranger, then according to what I'm reading, I would be good to tow up to the weight limit of the tires, even if it's a Teton 5th wheel."

Obviously, that's NOT the case, as nothing else in the vehicle's structure, running gear or powertrain has changed, nor have the manufacturer's GVWR or GAWR ratings. Manufacturer's GVWR and GAWR ratings as presented on the driver's door sticker are a function of far more than just the rating of the wheels and tires, which is the point I'm illustrating.

Do you have a specific problem with this example or the point I'm attempting to illustrate?

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The 20000 lb single axles numbers and the matteress tag theory mentioned are pushed by another mod and a few misinformed supporters on another RV web. I haven't heard anyone on this web make that claim.
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I am rigging my 22 HP Sears lawn tractor to tow our 35' travel trailer. I think it will save a lot of gas. All I need is the axle from a 3/4 ton truck and I'm ready to go.

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I am rigging my 22 HP Sears lawn tractor to tow our 35' travel trailer. I think it will save a lot of gas. All I need is the axle from a 3/4 ton truck and I'm ready to go.

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Don't forget to run a synthetic fluid in those 3/4 ton axles and helium in those tires.
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I think I will run Mobil 1 in the engine. And I can't forget all of the benefits of pure nitrogen in the tires.

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Well, an interesting exchange of opinions to say the least. Here in B.C. the Government controls licence and insurance, overloading voids insurance ! Also requires training and drivers testing for trailers over 10,000 GVW. 5th or TT. Same for any vehicle with air brakes. It is the operators responsibility to be aware of and within the laws. On a side note after 34 years as a Dodge mechanic, if i'd put 10 bucks away every time i'd had a vehicles warrenty cut off for overloading, I could have retired 2 years sooner.
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