Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-05-2019, 12:24 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: NW Montana
Posts: 38
How to find tow capacity

How do I find the towing capacity of my truck? I've searched all over, and the more I look the more confused I am. I've looked at the door sticker, and the only thing it tells me is the GVWR (6650lbs) and front/rear GAWR.


NADA lists towing capacity at 4350lbs
JDPower shows 4350lbs
RVsafety.com shows 7800lbs

Trailerlife shows it at 7900lbs
Camping World shows 8100lbs


I tried to download the owners manual from Dodge but the file is corrupt. Original manual was lost/stolen


2005 Dodge Ram 1500
5.7L Hemi w/ 3.92 axle ratio

2WD Quadcab SLT short box, 20" tires

tow package



Thanks for any help! (I may go to the local dealer tomorrow and see if they can help too.)
LPVagabonds is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 07-05-2019, 12:58 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 57
I found this with a quick Google search, but I would verify it with the dealer. Good luck...it can be confusing as heck.
paulag1955 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2019, 01:46 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
What do you want to tow? A hay wagon out of a hay field? Tow capacity is not what you really want.

If you are going to tow a camper you will want cargo capacity 1st. That will be your limit as to how much weight the truck can carry.

Example: Ford will advertise a 10,000lb tow capacity with a truck that has a cargo capacity of 1,600lbs. Your typical 10,000 lb travel trailer, in this example will put 2,000lbs of weight on the hitch if the truck. That is 400lbs over the cargo capacity of the truck.

But a boat and trailer weighing 10,000lbs will only put 1,000lbs of weight on the truck.

I towed my 6,500lb camper trailer with my friends 2005 Ram 5.7 Hemi 4x4. I felt that was too much weight for that truck.

You should be looking for a camper trailer that weighs around 5,500lbs loaded and ready to camp. A camper with a dry weight of 4,500 - 4,800lbs.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2019, 03:52 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
wandering1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 578
Send a message via ICQ to wandering1
Quote:
Originally Posted by LPVagabonds View Post
How do I find the towing capacity of my truck? I've searched all over, and the more I look the more confused I am. I've looked at the door sticker, and the only thing it tells me is the GVWR (6650lbs) and front/rear GAWR.


NADA lists towing capacity at 4350lbs
JDPower shows 4350lbs
RVsafety.com shows 7800lbs

Trailerlife shows it at 7900lbs
Camping World shows 8100lbs


I tried to download the owners manual from Dodge but the file is corrupt. Original manual was lost/stolen


2005 Dodge Ram 1500
5.7L Hemi w/ 3.92 axle ratio

2WD Quadcab SLT short box, 20" tires

tow package



Thanks for any help! (I may go to the local dealer tomorrow and see if they can help too.)

So what did the dealer or mfgr tell you???
__________________
Wandering1
wandering1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2019, 01:52 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Dropthejacks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Liberty, NC
Posts: 829
2WD-8,900 lbs 4WD-8,600 lbs GCWR- 14,000 lbs Now reduce the tow rating by 20% and you're in the ball park (7120 lbs/6880 lbs) Now, take into consideration that your vehicle is nearly 15 years old. Pulling 7K lbs with it, it will leave you on the side of the road shortly. I'd look at 4K lbs max.
__________________
2016 Keystone Outback 328RL
2019 Chevy 3500HD DRW
1 Slobbering English Bulldog for ballast
Dropthejacks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2019, 08:13 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
keymastr's Avatar
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,539
Simple physics tells you that a truck with a curb weight of less than 5000 pounds should not be towing a trailer that weighs nearly 9000 pounds. As Tuffr2 said, 4500 dry, 5500 gross is the range you want.
__________________
2020 F28 RKS Titanium
2017 Creekside 23 RBS Sold
2016 F250 Super Crew XLT Overworked
keymastr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2019, 02:05 PM   #7
Moderator Emeritus
 
SmokeyWren's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: HillBilly country, Smokey Mtns
Posts: 4,171
Quote:
Originally Posted by LPVagabonds View Post
How do I find the towing capacity of my truck? I've searched all over, and the more I look the more confused I am. I've looked at the door sticker, and the only thing it tells me is the GVWR (6650lbs) and front/rear GAWR.
The GVWR of the tow vehicle is all the specs you need to get a good estimate of the max weight of a tandem-axle travel trailer, cargo trailer or utility trailer you can tow without being overloaded.

GVWR minus the weight of the truck = payload capacity.

GVWR minus the weight of the wet and loaded truck ready to back up to the trailer = payload capacity available for hitch weight.

Payload capacity available for hitch weight divided by 13% = max weight of a properly-loaded tongue trailer ready for camping. Payload capacity available for hitch weight divided by 20% = max weight of a properly-loaded fifth-wheel trailer ready for camping.

You won't find the answer in any source, because nobody knows the weight of the people, pets, tools, toys, camping stuff and other weight you will haul in the truck while towing. So to get the answer you must load the truck with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing, fill up with gas, then weigh the wet and loaded truck.

The Owner's guide will explain how to determine the GCWR. The towing guide will give you the tow rating. Tow rating is GCWR minus the weight of the empty truck. GCWR tells you the max weight the rig can have without exceeding the power and torque of the drivetrain, and thus overheating something in the drivetrain. Tow rating is intended to help you determine the max weight of any trailer you want ot tow. But it usually yields wildly optimistic results because it ignores payload capacity. Yes, GCWR and tow rating do not consider payload capacity. Most trucks will exceed the payload capacity of the truck well before they reach close to the GCWR or tow rating. So ignore GCWR and tow rating and concentrate on GVWR and payload capacity.

If you want a good estimate of how much trailer you can tow without being overloaded - and without being the slowpoke holding up traffic on hills and passes, then you must take the time and make the effort to load the truck, fill up with gas, then weigh the wet and loaded truck, then do the math.
__________________
Grumpy ole man with over 60 years towing experience. Now my heaviest trailer is a 7'x16' 5,000-pound flatbed utility trailer, my tow vehicle is a 2019 F-150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost SuperCab with Max Tow (1,904 pounds payload capacity).
SmokeyWren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2019, 02:50 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Itchytoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 1,211
Go to a truck stop with CAT scales. Take your family and weight it after you fill up the fuel tank. Subtract your total weight from your GVWR (on your door sticker) and that's your cargo limit. Divide that by 0.15 and that's the max travel trailer weight I would consider. Anything more than that will have you overloaded.
__________________
2014 F350 DRW 6.7L CC FX4 King Ranch Ruby Red Metallic 158,000 Miles 4,450 Hours
2018 Cherokee Grey Wolf 29TE | Because I'm home, no matter where I am.
2018 Honda CB650F | Because the truck leans the wrong way when I turn.
Itchytoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 04:16 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Varago's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Vancouver Wa.
Posts: 126
Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2 View Post

I towed my 6,500lb camper trailer with my friends 2005 Ram 5.7 Hemi 4x4. I felt that was too much weight for that truck.
I have to agree with this 100%. I had a 2004 Dodge 1500, 4x4, 20". On the first tow (from dealer) with that truck and GD 2500rl (5990 lbs) both my wife and I decided to get a f250 before we towed again.

The 1500 did fine with boats but even the 2500rl empty was over the top of what I felt good towing.
__________________
2020 Grand Design Reflection 240RL, UVW 7812 lbs, GVWR 9495 lbs, 2017 Ford F250 XLT 6.7L 3.31 164"wb SCab LB 4X4, GVWR 10000, PayLoad 2532 lbs, rear axle 6340 lbs
Varago is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 05:20 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
Varago - I started my towing experience with boats. Agree my friends 2005 Ram 1500 4x4 5.7 hemi could tow a 6,500 lb. boat but not a travel trailer with the same weight.

Like I said I towed boats and yes, I equated a boats weight to a travel trailer. The 1st time I towed a travel trailer I thought holy smoke, this is not a boat. It put a lot more weight on the truck and pushed the truck around.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 10:05 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
seaeagle2's Avatar
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 227
Also, that boat is streamlined to cut through the water, most likely that travel trailer is like a parachute.
__________________
"One life, don't blow it" Kona Brewing "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles" Gary Larson
seaeagle2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2019, 06:01 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
A 6,500lb boat only puts about 650lbs of weight on the truck as most of a boats weight is over the tires and the heaviest part (the motor) is in the back.

A 6,500lb travel trailer will around 1,000 lbs of weight on the truck. Are you are right, it is not nearly as areodynamic.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
tow



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Towing Capacity and Payload Capacity mexmahon Powerstroke Engine Forum 4 09-22-2019 06:09 PM
Tow auto PT Cruiser with tow bar or tow dolly? woodnt Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 10 04-07-2016 05:49 PM
5000 lb towing capacity...is it the hitch or the engine capacity? bettertogeth Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 8 10-01-2015 10:11 PM
Guardian tow shield vs tow rock defender tow shield carlremley Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 2 04-26-2014 07:14 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.