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Old 11-21-2015, 08:42 PM   #1
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I need to buy truck before the 5th wheel

We currently have a FR Vibe and a 2003 F150 lariat

Originally we thought we did not want to upgrade the truck and bought a TT we thought we could pull. BTW we are not real experienced. 5 trips so far. But we both know our current truck is not sufficient for where we want to go.

On second thought, now that we know we like it, we want to upgrade while we are still working. I know I should pick a 5th wheel first, but our Vibe is sufficient for another year if we can't get a good deal.
I think I will just go ahead and buy a 1 ton, probably a diesel now. If I don't upgrade from the TT to 5th now, is there an issue with having too much truck?
I plan to buy a truck that can tow at least 17k for when we do upgrade.

Is a short bed OK for a 5th wheel? It will probably be a Ram or Ford

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Old 11-21-2015, 08:52 PM   #2
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"I have too much truck" said no RV'r ever! Get a long bed dually, the challenges will be far out weighed by the benefits.

I always said no Dually, no long bed, and no diesel, DW fell in love with out current ride and forced me to buy it. :

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Old 11-21-2015, 08:59 PM   #3
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I would not recommend a short bed. you very well may have clearance issues between cab & trailer on tight turns. You can get a pin box extender, but those things can be problematic. Only issue with too much truck I can think of is unnecessary additional expense. However, trailers ALWAYS end up being bigger/heavier than we plan! Happy trails to you all :-)
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:29 PM   #4
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It is hard to go wrong with a longbed diesel dually, but make sure it has the STOPPING power you will need. Better to step up to a one ton [or 1 1/2 Ton] and have too much stopping power, than struggle with a 1/2 ton that can hardly stop itself with a full load. IMHO stopping is more important than pulling power.
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:39 PM   #5
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When we started RVing I had a 2006 F350 DRW with a problematic 6.0 PSD. For my travel trailer I decided I had too much truck and got tired of the extra expense of dealing with it.

Purchased a new 13 F150 King Ranch with EcoBoost and while it had power to spare, the experience was just no where near as nice.

Fast forward to this year, we decided to take a trip to Florida with the kids and I was just not confident enough in the truck to take it. I traded up for a Ram 3500 DRW Laramie and I can't even begin to tell you the relief at how much easier everything is.

Because we got the truck, of course the wife wanted a bigger RV so we just bought our first fifth wheel about three weeks ago. At 16k lbs, it's not as "nice" of a ride as my 8k TT, as expected, but I feel very confident driving.

If it's in your budget, the DRW and diesel are worth it if you end up getting either a TT or a fifth wheel. Your options won't be limited and you'll be able to capably tow nearly anything out there -- at least a lot more options open up when it's time to shop.

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Old 11-21-2015, 10:50 PM   #6
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Too much truck? That's like too much fun. You can never have enough of either one.

And I agree with Greg2. Being able to stop safely is critical.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:31 AM   #7
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Thanks for the replies. I plan on the diesel, I can accept I should get a long bed, but...I want my truck to be garaged and I'm not sure a dually will work.

Good info you are providing. I want to be able to drive anywhere in the country with confidence.

Another question then....I cannot use the cruise control with my current truck.
Will a newer 1 ton allow me to use the cruise without jumping in and out of overdrive?
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:07 AM   #8
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Truck has 9,500# sitting on rear axle in pic. Factory air ride keeps the truck "level" all the time. Handles the 32K combined load well and within SAE specs.

Get one of these and you can SAFELY tow most any RV out there.

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Old 11-22-2015, 09:34 AM   #9
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You can open a can of worms with that question.

I think you need to look at what 5th wheel you want as well as keeping in mind what truck at the same time. Weight will come into play. It also sounds like size of truck is an issue because of garaging. In any event, get a 1 ton truck. It's not too much truck and gives you the most choices in a fifth wheel in terms of weight and size.

That's what I was faced with and decided on the 2015 Ram 3500 Laramie 4x4. The Ram SRW SB fit in my garage. The F350 was 3" longer and would not fit.
My other deciding factor in the truck was that it is my daily driver so I didn't want a dually for this reason.
With today's sliding hitches, and newer 5th wheel nose configurations, you don't need a long box. Several choices are available in hitches. I just chose the Pullrite Superglide hitch as I didn't have to worry about hitting the cab no matter what I was going to pull.
Once I knew the truck I wanted, that told me what I could pull (safely) in a fifth wheel and narrowed down the 5er models I was looking at.

Knowing the weight limitations of my truck allowed me to max what 5th wheel model and floor plan I could get to match the trucks capabilities.
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Without the standard/longBed I would not have such a usable quality tool box.

When you full time a BIG toolbox comes in handy. HighwayProducts bed height 30" front to back tool box.

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Another question then....I cannot use the cruise control with my current truck.
Will a newer 1 ton allow me to use the cruise without jumping in and out of overdrive?
This question will be nearly impossible to answer. I can say that if you don't like it shifting in and out of overdrive, lock it out of overdrive. Problem solved.
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Is there a issue with too much truck...............

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If your going to a fiver anywhere close to 17K, then get a dually. Overkill now? For sure, but buy it once. Nuff said!

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