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Old 10-12-2014, 10:09 PM   #1
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Is this truck able to tow a lightweight 5th wheel?

I'm curious about people's thoughts on the ability of our truck to tow a small fifth wheel.

Our truck is a 2010 F150 SuperCrew Lariat, with a 3:73 axle rating and 7700 lb max towing package. It's max payload is 1810 lbs and max towing is 11,300 lbs.

We are looking at a Jayco Eagle 26.5 RLS HT with a hitch weight of 1300lbs and GVWR of 9500 lbs.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-12-2014, 11:28 PM   #2
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By the time you load up the truck with passengers and equipment you will be over your truck capacity.
I have always felt that the upper limit for a half ton truck is 7 or 8 K.
Trade the truck for a 3/4 ton and you will be much happier.
Your safety and others on the road is very important.
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Old 10-12-2014, 11:43 PM   #3
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I tow the same exact size 5th wheel with my Ram 2500. My dry (stickered) pin weight is 1385lbs. My UVW is 7385LBS. All loaded I'm near 85-9000lbs. My pin is 17-1800lbs. Or I should say the added weight over the axles is 17-1800lbs. I'm using a B&W Patriot that's around 150lbs. My RAW comes in at 4900lbs. My empty RAW is 2900lbs. We load a few things in the truck bed also.
I owned the same truck only in an XLT with a 7650 GVW. I could never get the numbers to work. Glad I didn't. We towed a 7300lb 31' TT with it. It sucked for the most part. You can't lock out the 5th and 6th gears in the 2010 F150. With that much weight and frontal area the tranny wants to hunt for gears all day long. Pretty annoying.
We tow our current 5'er with a 12 Ram 2500 CTD. While it only has 2176lbs for payload, the RAWR is 6000lbs. Roughly 2000lbs more than your F150. I'm 1100lbs under the RAWR but over the GVW by 200lbs. You will max out all except the GCVWR with that 5'er.

The dry pin on the Jayco is 1325lbs per brochure. Add 100lbs for batteries and another 100lbs for propane. Now throw in 150lbs for the 5th hitch and you're at 1675lbs dry. You haven't even loaded anything in the front cargo holds. Add 2-300lbs for gear in there and that puts you at 18-1900lbs for the pin. So that's about 100lbs over the trucks GVW and you haven't even added you and your wife to the trucks weight yet.

Those so called 1/2 ton 'lite' 5'ers almost never work with a 1/2 ton. 99% of 1/2 tons are better served with a TT.
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Old 10-13-2014, 05:52 AM   #4
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I wouldn't do it. a TT under 30ft would be much better. No doubt the truck will pull but it will make for an uncomfortable trip at highway speeds
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Read your truck towing specs, if you don't have the specs then contact ford. Dont rely on personal opinions, get the facts.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:19 AM   #6
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You will be over your payload rating with that trailer. You need to count for the weight of the 5th wheel hitch also. The 1,300 lb. pin weight will go up once you load stuff in the trailer. Look for a 3/4 ton truck for that trailer.
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:30 PM   #7
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Thanks Everyone

For your responses. I guess if we want to upgrade to a larger unit, and not upgrade the truck, then we will need to stick with a travel trailer.
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Yes, you can tow it. You will have trouble stopping it but you didn't ask about stopping.
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Yes, you can tow it. You will have trouble stopping it but you didn't ask about stopping.
Last I saw all TT/5'ers come with brakes. I really doubt a 3/4-1 ton will stop any better with 15,500lbs behind it if the TV brakes go out.
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Last I saw all TT/5'ers come with brakes. I really doubt a 3/4-1 ton will stop any better with 15,500lbs behind it if the TV brakes go out.
A one ton weighs about a ton more than a F150, I would rather have that extra weight.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:41 PM   #11
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I'm curious about people's thoughts on the ability of our truck to tow a small fifth wheel.

Our truck is a 2010 F150 SuperCrew Lariat, with a 3:73 axle rating and 7700 lb max towing package. It's max payload is 1810 lbs and max towing is 11,300 lbs.

We are looking at a Jayco Eagle 26.5 RLS HT with a hitch weight of 1300lbs and GVWR of 9500 lbs.

Thoughts?
7040 dry weight
1380 dry hitch weight
19.6% hitch weight

9,950 GVWR
1,950 wet and loaded hitch weight

2015 Eagle HT 26.5RKS | Jayco, Inc.

Your limiter is the net available payload for hitch weight. You should plan on enough payload capacity to handle up to 1,950 pounds of hitch weight.

The max payload of your F-150 is 1810 pounds. You'll be overloaded with nobody and nothing in the truck but a skinny driver.

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I guess if we want to upgrade to a larger unit, and not upgrade the truck, then we will need to stick with a travel trailer.
As a rule, TTs have less hitch weight than 5ers, so you're on the right track. Average is about 13% for TTs. The 5er you're considering has 19.6% dry pin weight. So if you can find a TT with closer to 13% hitch weight and 8,500 GVWR, then you'll be at the top end of the weight carrying capacity of your pickup, but with careful weight management you won't be overloaded.

Example - the Jayco Jay Flight 26RLS has a floorplan similar to the 5er you were considering. But only 12.6% hitch weight. GVWR of 8,500 and wet and loaded hitch weight of 1,071 pounds.
2015 Jay Flight 26RLS | Jayco, Inc.

The TT will be less expensive than a similar 5er, but the best hitch for a TT will cost more than a good 5er hitch. The ProPride hitch like mine is over $2,000, but it makes a TT tow as good as any 5er. (Yes, I have both, and my TT with ProPride hitch tows just as good as my 5er.) The total cost of trailer and hitch will probably be about the same for a TT with the ProPride hitch as for a similar-quality 5er with a normal 5er hitch such as Reese R16.
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Look at the Jayco White Hawk 27DSRL. Has about the same floor plan. We looked at the trailer you are considering, however I don't think any 1/2 ton is suitable for towing that size 5th wheel. Way over the payload capacity.
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