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Old 10-07-2013, 10:06 AM   #141
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I disagree. It's time for operators to be responsible. Responsible operators will seek out training. A quick web search will result in enough data that anyone should be fully knowledgeable of the requirements to safely tow a trailer. Most new vehicles that can be factory equipped with a trailer towing package have a whole section o their manual or a separate manual on towing. I suspect trailer manufactures likely provide similar.

I'm not a fan of tax stamps oherwise called license. I would much rather have someone that takes responsibility for they are doing.
It would be great if everyone took responsibility for their actions, bit we all know this does not happen.

We do need some training on properly towing a trailer and the proper set up. Same for motorhomes. It is not simply jump in and drive off like a car.

As for the internet, there is a lot of misinformation out there and how can a newbie know what to believe and what to ignore.

If people fear the requirement for a license requirement for and RV, it is very likely that they feel that they could not pass the requirements. In which case, they need to forget about RVing or take a training/certification course. Way too often we see people pulling a large trailer or driving a large motorhome that a simply unsafe.

We have been RVing since 1984 and some things were learned the hard way. I am sure that there are some things that we do that could take some improvement with a trailer safety course.

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Old 10-07-2013, 11:37 AM   #142
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I think it is more trusting the licensure.

When I went to get my non-CDL class A it went something like this:
May I help you?
Yes, I would like to get a class A license.
A CDL?
No, a non-CDL class A.
No such thing.
Actually there is.
(He goes to look in the book, keep in mind one guy for 2 state run locations.)
(Comes back)
Why do you need a class A?
....sigh.... Because my combined weight is greater than 26000 pounds.
What vehicle is yours?
??? Excuse me?
What vehicle do you drive?
A 2011 Ford F350 dually.
That can not tow that much? What does the tag in the door say is the gross weight of the vehicle?
13300.
No the tag inside the door has a gross weight.
13300.
It can't a 450 maybe, but a 350 does not, it is on the tag that says GVWR.
13300. Would you like to see a picture of the tag?
No I need the actual tag information.
????????
(Thankfully the road test administrator was there and spoke up.)
Is that your large crew cab pickup, the white one?
(Me still dumbfounded) Yes...
That will gross combined over 26000.

Permit issued. Thankfully when you test you do not talk to the same gentleman that the state has determined is qualified to determine licensing requirements.

My father who got all of the classes available while serving. (Commercial, passenger endorsement, motorcycle...)
Oregon told him a Non-CDL Class A was not required for his 40' Allegro bus..... I do not live in Oregon so I suppose it is possible.....
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After towing trailers and having class a mohos I think anytime you tow anything heavier than the tow vehicle you only have partial control. If you check the amount of weight you have on the back of the truck often and make sure the trucks tow ratings are within range you are as safe as you can be.
I'm against giving any more responsibility to those clowns in DC.
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You know I had no idea this thead was still alive. I didn't read every post but the #1 rule should be never believe the sales person.

I was at an RV show earlier this year and had the owner of a dealership argue with me that my F250 was more than enough vehicle to pull the 5th wheel we happened to be in. I don't remember the numbers exactly but it wasn't even close. He said I do it all the time. I said that doesn't mean it's correct or safe. He was actually pissed off that I had challenged him.
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I like the idea of the insurance industry offering discounts for completing safety training. Keep the govt. out of it. Just another thing to stand in their lines for if they get involved.
My insurance co. Gave me 56$ discount when I got my class B,...
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:48 AM   #146
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My insurance co. Gave me 56$ discount when I got my class B,...
Interesting. Had a commercial for years and never got a discount. Gave it up 2 years ago. Now have a MH. Ya, what was I thinking.
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I've towed my trailer with water and without ..... Huge difference and my tank is up front!! If your tank is behind axles, 100% engineering fail!!!!!
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I've towed my trailer with water and without ..... Huge difference and my tank is up front!! If your tank is behind axles, 100% engineering fail!!!!!
You know you are posting on a thread that is over 3 years old?
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I would say putting 49 gallon water tank in the back of a trailer is a dumb idea. Perhaps, provided your bedroom stuff roughly balances the content of the kitchen cabinets, you had only a few hundred pounds of hitch weigh remaining.

V-nose design does not provide any downward pressure when towing, in fact it invites wind to cause sway

The Yukon on the picture looks very old school, notorious for soft suspension, soft and high profile tires, long rear overhang, lack of electronic trailer sway control. I would not care too much what towing capacity they state, it is based on small utility trailer with sand or gravel, has nothing to do with TT towing
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