“Just what are Ford and Rivian up to?

[tuffr2]

Got to wonder how the greedy Government will get the missing gasoline tax.

I heard they want to tax by the miles you drive. That is probably fair but I don't like that idea.

But a Tesla driver is not chipping in to drive on the roads. Ugh

[radar]

Some states and provinces collect a fee at registration. Think I prefer the mileage approach. Our car insurance is already calculated that way. They check our odometer once a year when we reinsure. Kinda cool actually. Insurance went down a bit this year.

[mobilemike]

Originally Posted by pasdad1

According to Tesla with v2 chargers (v3 chargers are even faster) you could charge a 85kwh battery from zero to 80% in 30 minutes. Since you never arrive at a charger with 0% percent battery, most of the time just 20 minutes could get you another ~200 miles of range.

Teslas charging rates have been tested and shown to be exaggerated several times. Do not trust teslas press propaganda.

[radar]

Originally Posted by mobilemike

Teslas charging rates have been tested and shown to be exaggerated several times. Do not trust teslas press propaganda.

True. But although we don’t own a Tesla the Tesla board has lots of interesting info on a variety of EV’s including the ones we own. Many Tesla owners participate and 15 to 25 minutes seems to be a common length of a charging stop at a Supercharger. Longer at the the Chademo sites as the adapter has a 50 KW thruput rate.

[09 harley]

Originally Posted by Jshopes81

40 electric models inside 2 model years? Thats very ambitious. The technology is definately advancing but at the rate things have been going, practical use is still a long way off for alot of people. Hd has a new electric bike coming out but its only got 150 or so mile range and takes several hrs to fully charge. Thats just not practical for anymore than a commuter or track days.

150 miles on a Harley or any bike is a lot. Normal trip. 30 or 40 to tavern. Bike is charging. Three hours. Trip home. Not all rides are the same but you get the idea. I think most people don’t drive over 40 miles a day. Any electric vehicle would work.

[radar]

Originally Posted by 09 harley

150 miles on a Harley or any bike is a lot. Normal trip. 30 or 40 to tavern. Bike is charging. Three hours. Trip home. Not all rides are the same but you get the idea. I think most people don’t drive over 40 miles a day. Any electric vehicle would work.

I see some Harley dealers are installing fast chargers. I would imagine a fast charge on a battery that would fit on a motorcycle would be 10 to 15 minutes tops.

[Jshopes81]

Originally Posted by 09 harley

150 miles on a Harley or any bike is a lot. Normal trip. 30 or 40 to tavern. Bike is charging. Three hours. Trip home. Not all rides are the same but you get the idea. I think most people don’t drive over 40 miles a day. Any electric vehicle would work.

Hell, i put that on my lawnmower in a week.

[rarebear.nm]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Got to wonder how the greedy Government will get the missing gasoline tax.

I heard they want to tax by the miles you drive. That is probably fair but I don't like that idea.

But a Tesla driver is not chipping in to drive on the roads. Ugh

Why don't you like being taxed by the mile? That's close to how the gasoline tax works now. What would be more fair? I can think of many ways making that work. Don't worry the EVs will be getting taxed plenty soon. Come to think about it, state gasoline tax did not start until 1919 in Oregon and spread to all 48 states within a decade. You know government is slow so give them a break to catch with the world.