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Old 11-13-2014, 10:18 AM   #29
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What do you mean by this? (speak with 3 owners? or look @ reviews?)
The various forums are a good start. Here is a link to one 6.7 Problems Forum - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
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Old 11-17-2014, 05:32 PM   #30
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If you are going used l would not get a 6.0 Get a Cummins or a Duramax. The exhaust brake on a 6.0 suck and The motors rep is less then stellar. JMO
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Cummins gets good fuel mileage. They run the same smog garbage that are on thier 15 liter engines. The newer motors using DEF get better mileage then just EGR but it is one more system
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Old 11-17-2014, 05:52 PM   #32
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Personally I would be looking at a F450. When you compare a F350 dually and F450 they are really the same basic truck with only a few differences to improve towing ability on the 450.
Not mine. I have a 2005 and when they went to install the 5 wheel the mounting kit they ordered for a 350 would not fit. Frame was way heavier.

My truck started life as a cab and chassis. I ordered it with options that give me a 33,000 GVWR. I pull a 18,000 5er. I am 842 under on the front axle, 4505 under on the rear axle, 3347 under the GVWR, 5136 under the GCVW, 6144 under the GTW, while the trailer is only 144 under the GVW.

I had to get the 4.88 rear ends so top speed is reduced. Driving at 60 is about the best mileage. Running empty I have got 16 mpg using actual numbers from the odometer and the fuel pump.
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:33 PM   #33
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Best is to use a reliable source such as Consumer Reports. But CR doesn't usually report on the reliability of diesel-powered pickups. Maybe a fleet owner's forum or publication that is not tied to any brand of truck?

I suspect the only way to get the info right now is to spend a lot of time in the brand-specific diesel owner's websites, such TheDieselStop for Ford diesels, TDR Register for Dodge/Ram, and I'm sure there is a comparable website for GM diesels. On TheDieselStop, for example, you'll learn to be leery of the Navistar 6.0L engines used in 2003 thru 2007 model years unless you want to spend a lot of money to "bulletproof" the engine. The Navistar 6.4 from 2008 thru 2010 has better reliability, but MPG is not good because of the smog controls added to all diesels beginning in 2008. The 6.7 Ford diesel engines since 2011 has been surprisingly solid for a new engine from an American manufacturer.

The Cummins engines in Ram trucks had an excellent reputation until the same smog rules that blighted the Navistar engines also whooped on the Cummins
Got it, I have been on the diesel stop site & have years of owning gm products (gas), not to interested in the ram (heard similar issues to ford). I am leaning toward gmc 3500 srw ,then plan on lighter 5th wheel I future. Or jump into the outlaw RV! Great education & experience from all here, thanks.
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IMO it does not matter what brand you buy. It is like picking a sports team. There are fans and detractors for all of them.

What matters is buying the correct truck for the application you will be using if for. Many will tell you the engineers have built in a safety factor so you are alright if you go over a "little bit". I suspect very few of them are engineers. IMO it is far better to have a TV that is 10 - 20% too big than 5 - 10% overloaded.
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Old 11-29-2014, 12:37 PM   #35
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Best is to use a reliable source such as Consumer Reports. But CR doesn't usually report on the reliability of diesel-powered pickups. Maybe a fleet owner's forum or publication that is not tied to any brand of truck?

I suspect the only way to get the info right now is to spend a lot of time in the brand-specific diesel owner's websites, such TheDieselStop for Ford diesels, TDR Register for Dodge/Ram, and I'm sure there is a comparable website for GM diesels. On TheDieselStop, for example, you'll learn to be leery of the Navistar 6.0L engines used in 2003 thru 2007 model years unless you want to spend a lot of money to "bulletproof" the engine. The Navistar 6.4 from 2008 thru 2010 has better reliability, but MPG is not good because of the smog controls added to all diesels beginning in 2008. The 6.7 Ford diesel engines since 2011 has been surprisingly solid for a new engine from an American manufacturer.

The Cummins engines in Ram trucks had an excellent reputation until the same smog rules that blighted the Navistar engines also whooped on the Cummins
Got it, I have been on the diesel stop site & have years of owning gm products (gas), not to interested in the ram (heard similar issues to ford). I am leaning toward gmc 3500 srw ,then plan on lighter 5th wheel I future. Or jump into the outlaw RV! Great education & experience from all here, thanks.
The issues Cummins had in the early 6.7's was software related. They took care of those problems and since the 6.7 has been very trouble free.

Fact is RAM is J2807 compliant across all their pickup lines. They backup what they claim.
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Best is to use a reliable source such as Consumer Reports. But CR doesn't usually report on the reliability of diesel-powered pickups. Maybe a fleet owner's forum or publication that is not tied to any brand of truck?

I suspect the only way to get the info right now is to spend a lot of time in the brand-specific diesel owner's websites, such TheDieselStop for Ford diesels, TDR Register for Dodge/Ram, and I'm sure there is a comparable website for GM diesels. On TheDieselStop, for example, you'll learn to be leery of the Navistar 6.0L engines used in 2003 thru 2007 model years unless you want to spend a lot of money to "bulletproof" the engine. The Navistar 6.4 from 2008 thru 2010 has better reliability, but MPG is not good because of the smog controls added to all diesels beginning in 2008. The 6.7 Ford diesel engines since 2011 has been surprisingly solid for a new engine from an American manufacturer.

The Cummins engines in Ram trucks had an excellent reputation until the same smog rules that blighted the Navistar engines also whooped on the Cummins
Got it, I have been on the diesel stop site & have years of owning gm products (gas), not to interested in the ram (heard similar issues to ford). I am leaning toward gmc 3500 srw ,then plan on lighter 5th wheel I future. Or jump into the outlaw RV! Great education & experience from all here, thanks.


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