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Old 12-20-2015, 10:10 PM   #15
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Compared to XLT:

Ford.com build & price

2016 F-350 XL CrewCab, 4x4. SRW, 6.75’ box, 6.7L diesel, 3.55 electronic locking axle ratio = $48,165
Add options that you need that are std on XLT but options with XL trim:
Power Eqpt pkg (power windows. locks. Tow mirrors) $1,105
XL Value pkg (cruise control) $595
Cloth 40/20/40 seat $315
Trailer brake controller $270

$50,450 subtotal (compare to $53,475 base price of XLT )
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Then add a couple of options that are not std on XL or XLT:
Camper pkg (rear sway bar) = $160
HD splash guards front and rear $270
Plus you must add delivery charges 1,195
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$52,465 MSRP
Minus about 10% dealer discount
$47,218.50 cash price (plus TT&L and minus any Ford rebates at time of delivery)
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Old 12-20-2015, 11:54 PM   #16
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Definitely run the numbers of the big three, GMC, Ford and Ram. If you don't really need the diesel you can knock of 8-9K and another 2-4K for 4x4. Or you can really load them up and be at 60K or more OTD. I chose Ram because I got an inside fleet deal but would have gotten one of the others just as well. I got my really loaded Ram for 55K OTD, Ca taxes and reg included. Life is full of choices, make some good ones, and enjoy life.
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Or, you can buy a 2 year old, very nicely equipped Ram 2wd Megacab Diesel with 25k miles for around $30k... if you can find one like I did.
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You will want a back-up camera and built in trailer brake controller. The back-up cameras are great when hooking up the trailer.

Any 2011 or newer 1 ton truck will do. Since a 1 ton SRW truck is the same size as the 3/4 ton truck I would not even look at the 3/4 ton trucks.
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:38 AM   #19
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No way would I spend an additional $9,000 for a tow vehicle that's going to sit the majority of the time and only tows 5,000 miles a year. For that weight any of the big 3 gassers would make more sense. You can get a nicely optioned new gasser with a warranty for the price of a used diesel.
I would order one with the 4.10-4.30 gears. You won't be wheezing up the hills with it. Think about it for a moment. You're really only climbing that 6-7% grade for a very short time. It's not like you climbing for 30 minutes straight.
Buy going with a gasser you'll be able to stay with a 3/4 ton too, which saves another $8-900.00.
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I also was in the same boat as the OP a few months back, went with a new 2015 Silverado 2500 4X4 HD 6.0 gasser double cag 6.6 box & 4:10 rear with the tow package, tow mirrors, brake control, backup camera etc.. couldn't justify spending 6-8 K on an oil furnace diesel, sorry don't work one hard enough only pulling 4-6,000 miles a year. Our TT is a 31' heavy arse 8900 lb. dry Keystone Laredo. This is more than enough truck for us pulling up grades etc. I am a die hard GM truck owner & have never had any serious mech. issues with them & have had good returns on trade in value over the years. We could go on for umpteen pages here saying what truck would be best for you,, only you will have to decide what works best for you, good luck & happy truck shopping.
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... You're really only climbing that 6-7% grade for a very short time. It's not like you climbing for 30 minutes straight.
Apparently you've never towed a heavy trailer on I-70 from Denver up to the Eisenhower Tunnel, then over Vail Pass. You'll spend a lot more than 30 minutes to get past the tunnel, and before you know it there's Vail Pass staring at you. If you had, you'd be thankful that God made turbo-diesel engines for pickups used for towing heavy trailers.
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Diesel truck with 4 wheels in the back and you will never regret it.
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Apparently you've never towed a heavy trailer on I-70 from Denver up to the Eisenhower Tunnel, then over Vail Pass. You'll spend a lot more than 30 minutes to get past the tunnel, and before you know it there's Vail Pass staring at you. If you had, you'd be thankful that God made turbo-diesel engines for pickups used for towing heavy trailers.
BUT the OP isn't towing I-70. In the North East, he will never see the altitude or a long climb equivalent to I-70 west of Denver. To repeat, with so few miles per year, a used diesel really doesn't make sense. While I love my diesel, with what I know today, I definitely wouldn't want to own a high tech used diesel for 10 yrs if it wasn't absolutely necessary.

My first tow vehicle was a gasser, owned it for 10 yrs and it only had 50k miles when I sold it. I didn't need a diesel (yet towed most western states including multiple trips up to 9k ft. altitude) so understand the OP's situation.
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No way would I spend an additional $9,000 for a tow vehicle that's going to sit the majority of the time and only tows 5,000 miles a year. For that weight any of the big 3 gassers would make more sense. You can get a nicely optioned new gasser with a warranty for the price of a used diesel.
I would order one with the 4.10-4.30 gears. You won't be wheezing up the hills with it. Think about it for a moment. You're really only climbing that 6-7% grade for a very short time. It's not like you climbing for 30 minutes straight.
Buy going with a gasser you'll be able to stay with a 3/4 ton too, which saves another $8-900.00.
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I would not spend a cent over $20k for a truck to do that little mileage. The depreciation will eat all the camping fun.
A 10k lbs trailer is easy to tow with any of the old trucks available in great shape.
A 250k miles Diesel truck today is worth much more then a 50k miles gas truck
So why not buy a truck that will be equipped to tow more and last forever.

My 10 year old truck cost me $1000 per year on depreciation and is good for me for 10 more years.
In fact It is better today than when I bought it 8 years ago for $20K.
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Everyone, I appreciate all the great feedback. The insight has given me plenty to think about. Our new trailer is in winter storage at the dealer and will not be picked up till April (we have to wait till all the New England snow melts away). With that said, I have a couple months to fine tune my pro vs.con list while taking all of your suggestions into consideration. I will update as to which direction I am going as the time comes. Thanks again.
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I would not spend a cent over $20k for a truck to do that little mileage. The depreciation will eat all the camping fun.
A 10k lbs trailer is easy to tow with any of the old trucks available in great shape.
A 250k miles Diesel truck today is worth much more then a 50k miles gas truck
So why not buy a truck that will be equipped to tow more and last forever.

My 10 year old truck cost me $1000 per year on depreciation and is good for me for 10 more years.
In fact It is better today than when I bought it 8 years ago for $20K.
Well, this is kind of misleading. I purchased my last truck (2011 F250 6.7l Crew Cab SWB) new in July of 2011. I paid $55,000 OTD (reduced from $62,995 MSRP). In Oct 2016 I had 26k miles and the dealer offered to buy my truck for $44k. So I traded it in on my new truck. I had over $30k in positive equity towards my new truck. Never had that with any past vehicle. Basically, because of the low miles and being a diesel, my truck only lost $11k in value over 4 years.
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