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Old 08-16-2015, 03:57 PM   #1
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Mid size SUV towing trailer

Thanks for the opinions and experience. The trailer uvw will be 4200#, max 24'. Vehicles now considered are Toyota 4runner rwd, Nissan Pathfinder fwd, Dodge Durango rwd, and possibly the Jeep GR Cherokee. All are V6, similar HP, 5000# or more tow capacity, size, wh base, and 1600# payload. The SUV would travel with 2 adults, 2, 30# dogs, minimal gear. We're not going for a giant SUV (op cost) or a truck (cab space). Not new to towing having done long trips with 2 Tacomas, a Ram, and recently a GMC Envoy. No fwd experience towing. Would like to hear from anyone with experience w/any of the above.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:41 PM   #2
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I towed with a Honda Ridgeline. Towed a 2600 lb boat, motor, trailer combined weight great. But a 4,400 lb dry camping trailer not good at all.

IMHO - if tow rating is 5,000lbs. Stay in the 3,000lb range. You are really trying to tow too heavy with a mid sized SUV.
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Old 08-17-2015, 12:42 PM   #3
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I think you will want a little more margin between the towing capacity of the TV and the actual wet weight of the trailer. Go by the GVWR of the trailer.
If you can't move up to at least a full size, half-ton based SUV, then consider a few of the other SUVs that are extremely good tow vehicles. I have had a lot of experience with the VW Touareg (tow rated at 7,716lbs). Similarly the Porsche Ceyenne and Audi Q7.
My Touareg TDI did great towing my 4800lbs dry TT. But I would not go any bigger.

The biggest issue is going to be hitch weight. A loaded TT that size is going to be around 600lbs, so nothing with a 5000lbs towing capacity will do.
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Maybe you can't afford to buy a bigger TV, but you can afford to buy a smaller trailer. If it were me, I'd want to be far enough below my safety margins that are limited by gross axle weight ratings (do you know what these are for your TV?), GCWR, and the GVWR for both the TV and the trailer. Remember that 10-15% of the weight of the trailer will be on the hitch, so a trailer that can weigh 6000 pounds max can put as much as 900 pounds on the tongue.

I have a Doge Ram 2500 quad cab, tons of room inside, I can haul six bodies, er, um, people!, and the mega cab has even more room, plus the ability to pull, maneuver, and STOP! a loaded trailer better than a truck or SUV built to deal with less weight. Better to have too much truck than just a bit too little. Remember, it's not a matter of "can I pull it", but "is this activity as safe as I can make it".
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Old 08-25-2015, 11:00 AM   #5
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We rented a TT with our 2015 Pathfinder. Suprisingly, it did ok on power. Towed from Las Vegas to Duck Creek, UT with some hellacious climbing. The biggest downfall was the handling. At highway speeds the setup was not stable during crosswinds.

Next we bought a Tundra to pull our Jayco 25RKS. Handling was fine but the power at highway speeds was not there.

Finally picked up a GMC 2500 Duramax and everything is perfectly balanced.

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That Pathfinder is closer to a minivan than the tough little SUV is used to be. Sad, what Nissan did to it.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:08 PM   #7
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Mid size SUV towing trailer

We've been pulling a Coleman 192 RDS, 23', probably around 5,000 lbs or so loaded with a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with the 5.7 L Hemi. 330 HP and 375 lb ft torque. As long as I keep the speed to 60 or so it handles the trailer pretty well, but I can tell you that a few days ago heading west on I-40 in NM into a strong headwind and altitude gains it was pretty much staying in 3rd gear and even then was straining in some of the climbs. I'm hearing pretty good things about the Ford 150 with the 3.5 L Ecoboost engine, but have no personal experience with it. Maybe someone can say more.
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Go for Durango or JGC; get 2013 or newer, if possible, when 8 speed automatic became available. Definitely, stay away from the new Pathfinder
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You should calculate what you need with the trailer gross weight rating and not the unloaded weight. If it weighs 4200 unloaded, you will be over your max 5k before you leave the driveway. Remember anything you put in the tow vehicle other that the driver and fuel, reduces your available payload. For myself, that is not good idea to tow that close to the margin.
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Back when I was a youngin...my family had a 21st Coleman or something of that nature...like a late 70's model. I am sure it was heavier than a late model of the same size.

We towed that thing all up and down the east coast with a 1987 Toyota 4 runner and a wd hitch. 4 banger 22re motor stick shift, don't remember if we had trailer breaks or not...pretty sure we did, just can't remember that part.

Today my dad would be banned from the hwy for such activity.

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Go for Durango or JGC; get 2013 or newer, if possible, when 8 speed automatic became available. Definitely, stay away from the new Pathfinder
QFT. Both of those vehicles have a 7,200# tow capacity. Friend and I took his '14 JGC 5.7 and picked up a JKU Rubicon few states over. Towed back on a flatbed that was about 5800# vehicle and trailer. No issues at all.
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Go for Durango or JGC; get 2013 or newer, if possible, when 8 speed automatic became available. Definitely, stay away from the new Pathfinder

Since I'm 4,000+ miles into a 5,000+ miles trip from FL to CO to Grand Teton to Yellowstone and back to FL pulling a 23' TT with a guesstimated weight loaded of around 5,000+ pounds with a 2005 JGC Limited with a 5.7 Hemi, I totally agree with the later model and more speeds in the tranny (plus more HP and torque in the later models, too, I believe). I've run into many situations where the extra gears would have really helped. I've also found that sometimes the "Tow/Haul" seems to help and sometimes the normal is best. Good luck!
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