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Old 03-27-2012, 09:06 AM   #15
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Thanks All,

You have given me a lot to think about. My conclusion is that to get the ideal truck, I should buy a Ford, a Dodge, and a Chevy. I should strip the engine and tranny out of the Ford and throw them away. Then I should replace them with the Cummins engine and Allison transmission. Finally, I should add an exhaust brake.

In a more practical sense, I'll just have to settle for a reasonable compromise. I sense that I should look for a 5.9L Chevy/GMC in the '05 - '07 era. Damn, those are hard to find.

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I think you have made some good choices. Another good choice would be a 01/02 Dodge w/5.9 HO and a 6 speed manual. Ebrake works very well and no tranny problems. A little practice shifting the 6 speed and you will be good to go.
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the 2008 ford 6.4 were the first generation 6.4l diesel from ford and had a hard time with fuel consumption.the 6.4l replaced the 6.0 that had a bad track record(injectors,head gasket).if you are looking for a diesel truck and great fuel mileage then good luck,
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Have no dog in the race so to speak, as I have a 2000 F550 and can't afford a new truck even if I wanted one. Where I am work camping have heard complaints about the newer Cummins with the emissions and UREA requirements. Have heard the new Ford built engine is great, especially when it comes to mileage. Haven't heard much at all on the Duramax.
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Where I am work camping have heard complaints about the newer Cummins with the emissions and UREA requirements.
That's very interesting since the 6.7L Cummins in the Dodge HD pickups (2500 & 3500) doesn't use DEF (urea) - the Ford & GM trucks do, however. No complaints at all on mine - it's never been back to the dealer for anything other than routine service in the 1.5 years I've owned it.

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The cummins is an excellent engine but the auto trans is junk. The duramax and allison have an 11 year history of excellent durability. If you can get your hands on an 06 or newer duramax you will never regret it. The tow/hall mode hase a built in trans break. I live in the rockies and tow 13000lbs and have never wished/needed an exhaust break. Good luck.
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You will like the chevy till you have to replace injectors and you will
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Old news, injectors have not been an issue since 05. Even then, most of the older GMs have had this fixed as they were given a 200,000 seven year warrenty. Has Ford or Dodge ever done that....NOT
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Sorry, but I should have directed you to the same. I have owned all three brands over the years.
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I guess we hit a nerve.sorry
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Step up a year or two to the 305/555 motor made in late '03 - early '04 on the Dodge (not the late '04 325/610 motor, but I'd take the 235HP motor from '03).

The changes to suspension and chassis are worthwhile, the motor is trouble-free, the fuel economy is excellent and you still have 7500-15,000 mile oil change intervals.

I have the 2WD truck you want, but with the manual six speed (which is worth having, despite the wife's objection). Since your climate & terrain are similar to mine and to other men who keep extensive records in the South & South Central U.S. you may also easily achieve above 22-mpg highway and 18+ in town. I've averaged 22-mpg the past 37k miles & three calendar years. Towing our 8k 34' TT was 15+ on level Interstate (also consistent with a dozen others with similar trailers, CTDs of from 8k-11k and 28' - 34').

The short version: shift at 1,500-rpm, and keep rpms between 1300-1500 according to CUMMINS for best fuel economy.

Repairs have been a $45 for an ignition switch in 180k miles. First set of tires and brakes went 120,000 miles. Etc.


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The 02 dodge with a 6 speed as previously mentioned is a great setup. With a few upgrades it will get better fuel mileage than all the rest. Pulling a 10000 pound trailer, a friend gets 23-26 mpg. Beware though with the mods necessary, you will have clutch problems eventually. I have an 06 duramax, enough mods to make It interesting, without trailer I am running 27- 31 mpg. Me driving 27, wife driving 31. With trailer I am in the 21-23 mpg range. I pull a 29 qbh jayco. The duramax transmission and the seat comfort (ride)for the chev is the drawing point. Friends with newer fords, are doing nothing but complaining of their fuel consumption, this also goes for my two buddies with 2010 and newer dodges, fuel consumption is extremely poor. Traveling in both the dodges and fords on long trips I have found ride comfort somewhat lacking compared to my chev. All of the big three have their good points and bad, in the end it will come down to personal preference at time of purchase.
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The 02 dodge with a 6 speed as previously mentioned is a great setup. With a few upgrades it will get better fuel mileage than all the rest. Pulling a 10000 pound trailer, a friend gets 23-26 mpg. Beware though with the mods necessary, you will have clutch problems eventually. I have an 06 duramax, enough mods to make It interesting, without trailer I am running 27- 31 mpg. Me driving 27, wife driving 31. With trailer I am in the 21-23 mpg range. I pull a 29 qbh jayco. The duramax transmission and the seat comfort (ride)for the chev is the drawing point. Friends with newer fords, are doing nothing but complaining of their fuel consumption, this also goes for my two buddies with 2010 and newer dodges, fuel consumption is extremely poor. Traveling in both the dodges and fords on long trips I have found ride comfort somewhat lacking compared to my chev. All of the big three have their good points and bad, in the end it will come down to personal preference at time of purchase.
21 -23 mpg towing???
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I am also sorry for causing an issue. If you are looking for milage chevy and ford started using the DPF in 2008 (2007.5 for chevy) and took 2-3 mpg away. I consistantly get 10-11mpg when towing with my duramax a fring gets 14 towing with his 06.
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