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Old 02-27-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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Moving Weight? Or new Truck?

We finally took delivery of our new TT! We spent the night in it then took it home the next day. I hit the CAT scales on the way home and got the following:
Front Axle - 4040lbs
Rear Axle - 5500lbs
Trailer Axle - 7960lbs
Gross Weight - 17500lbs

The truck was at 3/4tank, loaded with people, cooler and gear. The TT was loaded with 95% of our normal gear. One thought was the cooler which is a 150QT Igloo (It was full), could be put into the TT. Might have about at least 100# of other gear that could be taken from the rear of the TV and moved to the TT. I wish I would have taken the time to get my tongue weight but we had a baby with 2 diapers left and needed to get her home.

My truck max is 9200lbs so I'm over by about 420lbs if I had a full tank. Our trailer max is 11,000lbs. Would moving the weight to the trailer help us combined with more force on the WD bars to put weight on the front axle? I know Smokey will chime in with the new truck deal (which I'm not against) but if it's a new truck, then which one? F250 or F350? I'd think the F350 so we have plenty of options in the future.

Any thoughts?

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Old 02-27-2012, 08:31 PM   #2
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You're not in bad shape at all. Probably moving weight from the SUV to behind the trailer axles, plus tighten up the WD hitch a bit and you'll be right there. Maybe tie that hugh cooler onto the trailer's back bumper? That would reduce weight in the SUV as well as reduce hitch weight a bit because of the leverage.

As to which new vehicle would be needed to replace the X-Car, your trailer was probably loaded to about 9,000 pounds with a bit over 1,000 pounds hitch weight. But if you're going to jump, then jump to a TV that will tow the trailer when it's loaded to it's max of 11,000 pounds with about 1,300 pounds hitch weight.

SRW diesel CrewCab 4x4 will weigh about 9,000 ready to tow, so 11,000 pound trailer means you need only 20,000 GCWR but 10,300 GVWR. An F-250 has 10,000 GVWR, so that's not enough. The F-350 SRW diesel has 11,500 GVWR and more that 20,000 GCWR, to that's your truck. Get a shorty and put a topper on it and lots of folks will think you're still piloting a huge SUV.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:10 PM   #3
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Smokey, why did the scale say the trailer was only 7900#? Lower because of the weight transfered to my truck?

What do you think of putting the F350 axle and springs on my truck?

If we got the truck we'd have to get the crew cab. Don't forget about my 2 little crew members and childseats.

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Old 02-27-2012, 09:54 PM   #4
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Smokey, why did the scale say the trailer was only 7900#? Lower because of the weight transfered to my truck?
Yeah. You had 7960 trailer axle weight plus another 1,000 pounds or so of hitch weight that was mostly on the X-Car's rear axle.


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Terrible idea. Much better idea is to get a lighter trailer and haul less in the trailer.

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Yep, I assumed CrewCab 4x4. About 90 percent of SuperDuty pickups are CrewCab 4x4, so why should you be different? But no reason you can't have a shorty pickup with the 6.5' bed. Add a Leer topper and you'd have a heck of a good wagon to haul more stuff out of the weather than the X-Car can manage. Mine is like this one except in platinum white.

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What do you think of putting the F350 axle and springs on my truck?
That may make you feel better but doesn't change the weight ratings one bit. Only the vehicle manufacturer can change the weight ratings and they won't want to spend the money to get it recertified.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:18 PM   #6
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Smokey,

Those are good ideas. I'll have to get a scale for the tongue to see what affect putting the "2 Body" cooler on the rear of the TT. I need to find a Class 3 Hitch for the TT that can hold my Hitch tray but doesn't mount on the paper thin bumper. I was still surprised that I wasn't over by more. I will give the shifting weight a try first before tossing in the towel and going for a truck. Really don't want to give up my Ex or my trailer. Might do Helium in the tires as well

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