Originally Posted by Zander
. It's a Silverado 1500, 5.3, 4wd extended cab with hd towing package. The build sheet says 6,400 lb gvw,3.73 rear axle, and tow haul mode.
GVWR = 7,000
GCWR = 13,000
tow rating = 7,300
payload rating = 1590
The GVWR and GCWR are real numbers. The tow rating and payload numbers are ficticious because they assume the truck has no options and absolute nothing is in the truck but a skinny driver. The tow rating assumes the wet and loaded truck weighs only 5,700 pounds. The payload rating assumes the empty truck weighs only 5,410. But any truck scale will tell you that your wet and loaded truck weighs a lot more than 5410 or 5,700.
So ignore the tow rating and payload rating and compute your own. To do that, load the truck with whatever will be in it when towing - driver, passengers, pets, tools, jacks, bed rug, trailer hitch, etc. Drive to a truckstop that has a truck scale and fill up with gas. Then weigh the wet and loaded pickup.
Subtract the weight of the truck from 7,000 and the answer is the max hitch weight you can have without being overloaded. Hitch weight is probably your limiter as to how much trailer you can tow without being overloaded. Divide the max hitch weight by 0.186 to get the max weight of your 5er you can tow without being overloaded.
If hitch weight is not your limiter, then subtract the weight of the wet and loaded truck from 13,000 to get the max trailer weight you can tow without being overloaded. If your truck weighs 6,500, then the max trailer weight you can tow is 6,500 without exceeding the GCWR of the pickup. But your 5er will probably weigh over 8,000 pounds when wet and loaded for the road.
But if your truck weighs 6500, then your max hitch weight is 500, which translates to a max trailer weight of 3,333 pounds.
We purchased a 2008 Jayco Eagle Super Lite FW 27.5RKS. Specs ..., GVWR- 8,750.
Hitch weight is probably your limiter on any pickup with single rear wheels. Your trailer is a 5er with 18.6% pin weight.
But what I am concerend with is this a safe setup?
Ddouble whammy. You'll not just exceed the GVWR of your 1500 by a bunch, you'll even exceed the GCWR by a bunch. So no, your current truck is not safe when towing that trailer.
You want a tow vehicle that is not overloaded over any of the weight limits. The most likely weight limit that you will bump into first is the GVWR of the tow vehicle. So you need one that has at least 1628 pounds of unused payload capacity when loaded to the gills with people, tools, stuff, and a full tank of fuel.
A 2008 GM 2500HD has a GVWR of 9,200 pounds. Subtract 1628 hitch weight and that leaves 7572 pounds as the max weight of the truck before tying onto the trailer. That means you can't haul much in the truck when towing. More than likely you'll be overloaded with a family and normal toolbox full of tools in the truck. So I suspect the 2500HD of 2008 is not quite enough truck for that trailer.
I hate to get rid of my truck and I have been pricing 2500 HD's but here in middle TN and surrouding areas the prices are so high I can't pay the prices they are wanting. Also could you recommend the truck I might need and if I do need to upgrade I want to go with a diesel, and an area where you can get a fair price.
The used car industry won't allow much difference is prices in various parts of the country. If prices are higher in TN than in AL, then the car haulers will be hauling cars/pickups from AL to TN.
But given that, you may want to go where a high percentage of the population drives pickups. Ranch country. Texas.
Nice used pickups are high priced everywhere, but the prices may be a bit lower in areas that have lots of them for sale.
However, I just checked on the price of a pickup here in west Texas and where my daughter lives near Knoxville. Same price for a 2008 GM 2500 SC diesel 4x4 with 8' bed and the tow pkg. The diesel engine will cost you $4,800 or more extra on that pickup, compared to the exact same pickup with the 6.0L gasser. By 2008, GM had the Isusu diesel engine pretty well bulletproofed, so it should be a good choice for you. But $4,800 or more will buy a lot of gasoline.
However, a used 2008 GM 2500 will probably be overloaded with your trailer when wet and loaded for the road. You need one with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or more, and from the specs I can find the 2008 GM 2500s have only 9,200. Some of the new GM 2500s have 9,900 or 10,000 GVWR, and that's what you need. Or better yet, get a GM 3500 SRW which has well over 10,000 GVWR.
Of course, I'm a Ford fan, and any 2005-up F-250 SuperCab long bed or CrewCab with V-10 or diesel engine has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds.
But better yet is the 2005-up F-350 with 11,500 GVWR.