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Old 08-04-2015, 11:18 AM   #43
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Fyi...a 2014 (not the new aluminum) F-150 weighs approx 5,700lbs. The F-250 weighs approx 7,700lbs. That is a 2,000lb difference between a 1/2 ton truck and a 3/4 ton truck.

Ram and GM differences are about the same. Their 1/2 ton trucks are 2,000 lbs. lighter than their heavy duty trucks.

How did anyone figure there was a just a 400lb. diff? That is a bogus number.
I have # of F250 =5642
F350 SW =5696
F350 DW = 5980
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:41 AM   #44
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I didn't see anyone mention it but did you check the air pressure in the trailer tires. My dealer only put 30 lbs. in ours (trying to save on Nitrogen I guess) and it swayed all the way home, supposed to be 55.

Also ours had some problems until we put the heavy items, food, ice, luggage, etc. over the trailer wheels, not in the truck or the front of the trailer. Only thing we can think of is the springs need some weight on them so they don't just flex around all the time.

We also needed two friction control bars.
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Old 08-04-2015, 01:03 PM   #45
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Twinboat - you need to recheck your numbers. I know the F-350 Dually will weigh apprix. 8,600lbs. Just weighed my F-450 with the hitch, full diesel and tools right at 9,020.

I used to own a 2011 F-150. Great truck, it weighed in at 5,750 lbs full of fuel and me in it. Before I bought it was parked next to a 2011 F-250. The F-250 made the F-150 look small.

Check your numbers again please.
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Old 08-05-2015, 08:50 AM   #46
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I have # of F250 =5642
F350 SW =5696
F350 DW = 5980
No way.
Maybe with a gas engine, but not diesel.
My Ram 2500 is 7,300 empty and I think the Ford is heavier.
Diesel ads about 1,000lbs.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:55 PM   #47
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I am with TDI... My 2500 cummins Ram is 7660 loaded... no way the wife and kids way 2,000 lbs!
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The below link is an article from trailer life, I know it's old but all the rules apply and the writer actually addresses the problem not just throwing a $60k truck at it.

http://www.timberman.com/rig/sway.htm
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More good info, this site is selling a product but still makes no bones about the weight vs size debate, and I quote "Note that the weight of the trailer is not a factor in this equation. Contrary to popular belief, a lighter trailer does not help with trailer sway problems, nor does a heavy vehicle."

http://hensleymfg.com/trailer-sway-101/
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Just one more before I go to bed. Size some times does not matter, try and fix the sway problem and consider your driving conditions. yes it is a dully!

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i own a 2012 toyota tundra crewmax 5.7 ltr pickup which i am told can tow up to 10,000 lbs.?? we bought a 2016 coleman 34' travel trailer that is suppose to be 7400 lbs. dry weight. The sticker in my door says 7000 GVWR with 18" tires but the truck was purchased with load D 20" tires.
Anyways, even pulling the trailer home empty for two hour trip, once I got to 50 mph or higher, the trailer would begin to sway and even felt like it was moving the truck. I have to hold tightly with both hands the entire time pulling it to control it and slow down when swaying. It doesnt look like much of a sway in the mirror, but you can feel it in the wheel. the trailer dealer set it up with a weight distributing hitch and weight dist bars along with a friction sway control bar. I took it back for them to check it loaded and they said trailer and truck were still level and only suggestion was maybe another sway control bar on the other side of the tongue. Said trailer was just so long is why i was getting sway. Question: do I need a different setup or do I need to upgrade to 3/4 - 1 ton truck? I dont want to buy a new truck if its not going to fix the problem. Please Help
Your story was our story. If you want to read our problem and how we solved it, search Likes2camp posts and you will hear how our equal weight trailer..to yours..and our new F150, purported to tow 11,300lbs, did NOT get along...we ended up buying a ProPride hitch...no sway after that, then a Ram2500 diesel for control. Sorry to hear your problem...we had steep learning curve to get to complete satisfaction of today.
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That F350 at 5980lbs must be all aluminum. my 2015 3500 DRW weighs 8960 with 1 person and full fuel
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The way that 2500 is squatting, I imagine it's a lot more than 500lbs. Have you taken a tongue weight? I'm not chastising- I'm curious
Different angles...
No squat.
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Ah, that's more like it. It was the camera angle.
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I am with TDI... My 2500 cummins Ram is 7660 loaded... no way the wife and kids way 2,000 lbs!
I scaled my 2015 F 250 Superduty 4wd long bed today. Me and a 1/2 tank of gas ,7100 pounds-4080 f, 3020 R.
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I scaled my 2015 F 250 Superduty 4wd long bed today. Me and a 1/2 tank of gas ,7100 pounds-4080 f, 3020 R.
Gas or diesel?
The engine makes a huge difference in weight.
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