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Wild Card · 09-09-2015, 08:12 AM

Alright serious descussion here

My 7.3 short bed was tired, needed lots of front end work and a tranny in the future.

Went and got a 1ton ram dually 6.7l. Not that I was under trucked before but I am definitely not now.

Stryker 2812 toy hauler. 33' length and 12'7" height 7k# unloaded, 10k# gvwr loaded, with 885# rated tounge weight.

When I load to capacity, my 100 gal of water is over the hauler axel, 2 -500# atvs, 1 just ahead of axel and 1 behind, with my son's 80cc atv beside the one behind. Misc stuff throughout I am close to 9k and I balance it the best I can

I set my hitch height up last night and took for a tow with out my bars latched. It only squatted the rear about an 1 to 2 inches. And my trailer is down 1 inch in the front. So my thoughts are the weight bars should bring trailer level.

My concern is does one even need weight distribution with my new combination? I would like to utilize sway control but the e2 hitch utilizes tounge weight for sway control...much the same as equalizer

I towed it a few miles last night just on the ball. I went to 70mph, made a panic swerve at 60 trailer wagged but was right back in line. Made panic stop safety with all it had and all was fine.

I want to be a safe,stable and stress free as I can

TDI-Minnie · 09-09-2015, 08:26 AM

1 inch (plus) down on the front of the trailer is what you want for stability.
With the ATVs in the back, you are probably lighter on the hitch then when empty.

I don't see any reason for a dually to have WDH in this instance. In fact, it will probably ride better as is.
I have towed 15k+ miles on just the ball and have not had any issues.
The electronic sway control on newer trucks is quite remarkable.

04266832 · 09-09-2015, 09:29 AM

I'm interested in this, as well. I also just bought a Ram 3500 DRW and I can't seem to find any information about the weight carrying capacity of the class V hitch on it. I looked on the hitch itself and there's nothing there that I can find.

I tow my <8k TT just on the ball short distances but I do put on my bars for longer trips. I'm curious if it's even doing anything. I tried to set up my weight distribution properly to make use of the sway control, but with my trailer on the ball the front of the truck doesn't even move. Hard to make adjustments to the hitch at that point.

Natebert · 09-09-2015, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by guy.lawless

I'm interested in this, as well. I also just bought a Ram 3500 DRW and I can't seem to find any information about the weight carrying capacity of the class V hitch on it. I looked on the hitch itself and there's nothing there that I can find.

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You might be able to find the information you're looking for here.
Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart

I have a 2015 RAM 1 ton dually w/ 6.7. and the air bag suspension.

I like to tow with the WD hitch and bars because it seems to reduce the bobble.

However I regularly tow around town without the bars installed and it seems to tow just fine then too.

My trailer is about 10k GVWR and has ~ 1100lbs of tongue weight.
I have a shell on my long bed and do haul a lot of gear in the back. (~ 1000lbs)

tuffr2 · 09-09-2015, 10:12 AM

I tow a 7,500 lb. camping trailer with my dually as well as a 5th wheel. The trailer is built similar to an Airstream meaning it is low. I just hook and go. No WDH. Just lower onto the ball hook up chains and lights.

No sway at 65 or 70 mph.

SmokeyWren · 09-09-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by guy.lawless

I also just bought a Ram 3500 DRW and I can't seem to find any information about the weight carrying capacity of the class V hitch on it. I looked on the hitch itself and there's nothing there that I can find.

Did you crawl under the rear end of the truck and look up to the frame of the receiver? There should be a sticker there with WC and WD weight limits. (WC = weight carrying with nothing but a shank and ball mount stuck into the receivrer, WD = with a weight-distributing hitch)

I don't see the WC limits for a 2015 Ram dually. The WD limit is 1,800 pounds tongue weight, so that's what the sticker on the frame of your receiver should state.

I don't keep up with Ram specs, but Ford specs say that any trailer with hitch weight more than 500 pounds requires a WD or fifth-wheel hitch. I suspect if you dig deep enough into Ram towing specs, you'll find the same requirement.

04266832 · 09-09-2015, 11:24 AM

There is no sticker with weight ratings on the hitch. I've been under the truck several times looking for it since that's where it was on my F-350.

The only sticker is for a replacement part number which links to: TRAILER HITCH | Genuine Mopar | 68140775AE

Wild Card · 09-09-2015, 12:06 PM

I have found no rating on mine. Let's not forget it's a class v hitch not a iv.

Most ratings on class v are 2400# tounge and 17000. Wd or not

Wild Card · 09-09-2015, 12:08 PM

Ford f350 come with class iv hitch...2".

Dodge has class v 2.5 inch.

SmokeyWren · 09-09-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by guy.lawless

There is no sticker with weight ratings on the hitch.

I've never seen a receiver without a weight rating somewhere on the frame of the receiver. Some have embossed info, and some have scratched-in or stamped-in info and most nowadays have a sticker. Use a flashlight looking for painted-over embossed or scratched info that includes WC and WD weight limits.

Research on "specs - MOPAR 68140775AE" did not result in any specs, just sales pitches. I don't know why MOPAR hides the specs.

But you can bet that the WC weight limit is at least 500 pounds. I wouldn't tow a trailer with more than 500 pounds tongue weight without a WD hitch anyway, so WC limit more than 500 pounds wouldn't be useful info for me.

TDI-Minnie · 09-09-2015, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Natebert

I like to tow with the WD hitch and bars because it seems to reduce the bobble.

I had a little bit of an issue with the bouncing/pogo effect over big humps in the road until I got a set of Bilstein shocks and threw the OEM units in the trash. What a difference.
Highly recommend the Bilsteins.

Wild Card · 09-09-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyWren

I've never seen a receiver without a weight rating somewhere on the frame of the receiver. Some have embossed info, and some have scratched-in or stamped-in info and most nowadays have a sticker. Use a flashlight looking for painted-over embossed or scratched info that includes WC and WD weight limits.

Research on "specs - MOPAR 68140775AE" did not result in any specs, just sales pitches. I don't know why MOPAR hides the specs.

But you can bet that the WC weight limit is at least 500 pounds. I wouldn't tow a trailer with more than 500 pounds tongue weight without a WD hitch anyway, so WC limit more than 500 pounds wouldn't be useful info for me.

Again it's a class v hitch. Most are rated to 2500# tw

I was just under mine and found no info. I will look again for something stamped

In the link posted above in the print it specifies the the tounge weight is not to exceed 1800#s. No mention of needing weight distribution.

Cummins12V98 · 09-09-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TDI-Minnie

I had a little bit of an issue with the bouncing/pogo effect over big humps in the road until I got a set of Bilstein shocks and threw the OEM units in the trash. What a difference.
Highly recommend the Bilsteins.

Bilstein does NOT make an application for the rear air ride system on the RAM trucks. The factory shocks on the 3500 trucks are good quality US Made Nitrogen shocks.

I did replace the front on my 15 RAM Dually. They did improve the "REVERB" I would get with a harsh bump. But I have ZERO issues with the factory shocks on my rear air suspension solo or with over 5K pin weight.

TDI-Minnie · 09-10-2015, 08:35 AM

Ironically, and to your point, I think the front shocks do more to control the bounce caused by a TT. The whole truck pivots over the rear axel like a see-saw and the front goes up and down.