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Old 03-09-2018, 10:41 AM   #1
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Wow! What a wealth of information on this Forum! Many thanks to all of you seasoned travelers who contribute.
I am going to bite the bullet and retire early, buy a truck and 5th wheel and hit the road. We thought about full time RVing but decided that wasn't for us. So far I have bought the tow vehicle, a 2015 Ram 2500 Cummings TD. Next is to decide on a hitch and trailer. The trailer length will be between 28-32 feet long. My truck came with a removable gooseneck ball. I would like to possibly be able to transport trailers for dealers to earn some extra income (gotta pay for those trips somehow!) so I think a sidewinder hitch or a goosebox will not work for that. My bed measures 74", and from what I have read on this forum I would be kind of an idiot not to get a sliding hitch, especially since a lot of the places I want to camp are in less developed areas possibly requiring tight turns. So, am I thinking correctly or not, and if I am, would any sliding hitch from a major company (Reese, Curt, B&W ect) with about a 20k rating be ok, or are there some obvious best choices? Also, what do I need to watch for when we start shopping for trailers? Any suggestions or corrections will be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:13 AM   #3
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If you will need to get into tight spaces. That will not be easy with a 5th wheel...
You will need to make wide turns with the truck. Anyway, good luck

Be aware of pin weight and the trucks weight carrying capacity.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:19 AM   #4
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Look at a PullRite Super Slider.....no extra handle to pull to activate slider....mine works just fine......and uses WD 40 on the rails
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RV transport? Good luck. There is very little money in it for a lot of hours. Besides you do not have enough truck. Most all the hot shoters use a dually because they have no idea what the next haul will be. 2500 series truck are just too limited to earn you any money.
As for trailers? Keeping to a TT you should have no problem. If your asking about a fiver? Weight is all important.
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So far I have bought the tow vehicle, a 2015 Ram 2500 Cummings TD.
Wonderful for big TTs. But limited weight capacity for 5ers.

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Next is to decide on a hitch and trailer. The trailer length will be between 28-32 feet long.
With a 2500 diesel, keep it down to a 28 footer or shorter, and not have to worry as much about hitch weight.

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... would any sliding hitch from a major company (Reese, Curt, B&W ect) with about a 20k rating be ok, or are there some obvious best choices?
There is one obvious best choice for a slider hitch for your shorty pickup. You want an automatic slider, and the proven choice in an automatic slider is the SuperGlide that bob Caldwell mentioned. It's available in three different mounting styles, the original SuperGlide that bolts to the frame of the truck, the Industry Standard Rails (ISR) system that uses Reese bedrails, and the OEM system for Rams that have the factory OEM 5er/gooseneck install pkg.
Here's the oe for ISR bed rails:
ISR Series SuperGlide 16K | Fifth Wheel Hitches by PullRite
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Weight. You didn't buy a 3500 dually that's required to tow big 5ers without being overloaded. You didn't even buy the 3500 SRW that would probably work for most 28-32 foot long 5ers. You bought a 2500, so you must live with that decision. I wouldn't even look at 28-footers - stick with 25-26' long, then manage weight so you don't exceed the GVWR of your Ram.

You want to be pretty sure you're not buying too much trailer for your Ram? Then here's the drill:

1] Load your Ram with all the people, pets, tools, jacks, toys, campfire wood, and anything else that will be in it when towing.

2] Drive to a truckstop that has a truck scale and fill up with fuel, then weigh the wet and loaded Ram.

3] Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded Ram from the GVWR of the Ram. The answer is the max hitch weight of any 5er you can tow without exceeding the payload capacity of your Ram.

4] Divide that max hitch weight by 20% and the answer is the max GVWR of any trailer you want to consider.

Caveat: The above assumes the 5er hitch is installed in the Ram when you weigh the Ram. If it's not, then you need to subtract the weight of the 5er hitch from the max hitch weight calculated above.
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It would probably be relatively safe to say you could tow most 5th wheels advertised as 1/2 ton towable.

The other group would be a high quality 26' 5th wheels maybe 28'.
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As said above you're looking at smaller 5th wheels. I would have gone for a 3500 instead.
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My 2500 hauls this 32' one perfect....
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Sure, it's an ultra light. Perhaps I should have said smaller and/or lighter.
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Ok, I think I am missing something here. I took the above formula, added the 6800# vehicle, overestimated weight for fuel, hitch, passengers, coolers, firewood, ect and came up with 8200#. The hitch weight for the heaviest trailers I am considering is 1500-1600 #. The truck has a GVWR of 10000#, and a towing capacity of 17000# to tow a trailer that has a maximum weight rating of 10500# (32'), and I probably will not buy one that big. My target length is 29-30'. Am I missing a step?
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Whew! I was really starting to panic! I thought I had screwed up before I even began! I couldn't sleep for worrying about this, so I started combing through my owners manual, when I found a chart on p. 668 of my owners manual that said that my 2500, when used with a fifth wheel hitch, has a maximum trailer weight of 25000#, with a maximum hitch weight of 5000#. Another table from the Dodge web site said that the 2500 Cummins TD has a GCWR of 25,300#. I think I am good!
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Whew! I was really starting to panic! I thought I had screwed up before I even began! I couldn't sleep for worrying about this, so I started combing through my owners manual, when I found a chart on p. 668 of my owners manual that said that my 2500, when used with a fifth wheel hitch, has a maximum trailer weight of 25000#, with a maximum hitch weight of 5000#. Another table from the Dodge web site said that the 2500 Cummins TD has a GCWR of 25,300#. I think I am good!


Crew cab? I think you may be looking at something wrong. I have the same truck and I'm not seeing anything close to your numbers. My payload is only just above 2000lbs(door sticker). And my owners manual doesn't even go over 300 pages.

Here's the chart. It stats for tongue weight it should not exceed the payload rating. The payload number you go by is a sticker on the inside of your drivers door.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/tow...ing_charts.pdf
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My 2015 3500 Ram SRW paylod is approximately 4300#
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