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Old 10-03-2013, 08:52 PM   #99
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That's because the only hybrids worth a darn are the small ones no bigger than a prius. The rest don't really offer enough increase in MPG to justify the cost, except if you drive all city miles.

Once you get to a certain point in weight, diesels make more sense for increasing MPG. Pretty soon we will start to see diesel hybrids.
Pretty soon arrived here about 5 years ago. The city has been operating about 5 diesel/hybrid transit bus's for a long time now. I always hear their diesel engine running, never on electricity only. That reminds me, I was supposed to phone the city transit authority a month ago to find out who manufactured the bus.

gggplaya; There is a reliable long distance electric-only vehicle - Tesla. Gotta have the coins to purchase one though.
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gggplaya; There is a reliable long distance electric-only vehicle - Tesla. Gotta have the coins to purchase one though.
Bet the insurance rates are going up on them after this week.

There are diesel engines in all sorts of cars, from the commercials Audi even, why not 1/2 ton trucks yet.
My opinion on the diesel not needed crowed, I remember back when....... pickups were not the cool vehicle and construction workers and farmers were the only people that had them. Price mark up was a lot less then.
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Pretty soon arrived here about 5 years ago. The city has been operating about 5 diesel/hybrid transit bus's for a long time now. I always hear their diesel engine running, never on electricity only. That reminds me, I was supposed to phone the city transit authority a month ago to find out who manufactured the bus.

gggplaya; There is a reliable long distance electric-only vehicle - Tesla. Gotta have the coins to purchase one though.
Yup, very reliable all right, that's why share prices are falling like rocks.
Tesla says Model S fire started in battery pack; share prices falling - Autoblog

The tesla is a sedan, the chassis is very light weight, it's the massive battery pack that makes it weigh more. The fact is, once you get to a certain weight level, you need more constant KW energy to move the vehicle and that drains the battery extremely quickly. Hybrids and electric vehicle should stick to smaller cars,this tesla is about as big as you want to go. Even then, you still have to pay $40k for a battery that gets you over 200miles.
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Yup, very reliable all right, that's why share prices are falling like rocks.
Tesla says Model S fire started in battery pack; share prices falling - Autoblog

The tesla is a sedan, the chassis is very light weight, it's the massive battery pack that makes it weigh more. The fact is, once you get to a certain weight level, you need more constant KW energy to move the vehicle and that drains the battery extremely quickly. Hybrids and electric vehicle should stick to smaller cars,this tesla is about as big as you want to go. Even then, you still have to pay $40k for a battery that gets you over 200miles.
Considering it was under 100.00 few months ago "falling" is a relative term.

It didn't fall far, and its coming back up already - almost 181 today.

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There are diesel engines in all sorts of cars, from the commercials Audi even, why not 1/2 ton trucks yet.

My opinion on the diesel not needed crowed, I remember back when....... pickups were not the cool vehicle and construction workers and farmers were the only people that had them. Price mark up was a lot less then.
You are right on the money with that thought. too much profit in the gas trucks. And they have spent big money making them as good as they are. This is especially true of Ford and the development cost on that Turbo charged V6

Too many people want a full size truck that rides and drives like a Taurus.
It has really driven up the price of a pickup for those of us that want a occasional use pickup truck.
Till I find one better I'll Keep my 77 F-150. It does what I want it to do.
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