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Old 09-29-2014, 09:54 PM   #1
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New F150 has 3,300lbs of Payload??

Check out the news, new F150 has 3,300lbs of payload. That's 2500/3500 series truck territory. It has an all new aluminum body which saves it around 600-700lbs, but still retains the same frame structure. So that instant weight savings equates to equally proportional gain in payload.

I wonder how many people are going to put some smaller 5er's on these half-tons. Technically you would be well within your limits, but i'm still skeptical.

Here's the link: http://www.tfltruck.com/2014/09/2015...re-in-preview/
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:48 PM   #2
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Ford also states that the 2.7 liter 6 cylinder has the best towing capacity also at over 12,000 lbs. This is more than their bigger V8. I am not sure I can believe all that I read anymore.
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Old 09-30-2014, 04:04 PM   #3
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2.7 liter V6 is 8500 lbs towing. 3.5 liter ecoboost is over 12000 lbs towing. Would I do it on a normal bases. No.

Its kind of funny that no body thinks V6 engine can have the power or torque to do the work. Back in the late 60's early 70's GMC truck had V6 engines that could run larger GPM fire pumps than there own V8 engines in fire truck chassis. The big problem back then was distributers and carburetors that would go out of adjustment. New fuel injection and coil on plugs only make them better.
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I didn't read the whole article ; stopped at " Can be configured " which to me says , the truck no body would order, standard cab, bench seat, short box, no radio , no A/C no...no...
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Question Why post it here?

What does this information have to do with Class C's?
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It appears that the new 2.7 motor will be a great power plant for most owners. I hear owners complaining about fuel mileage even with a 4K lb. bass boat and the 3.5 EcoBoost engine--but few complaints with no trailer. 325 hp should pull a bass boat or lighter trailer well.

If I wasn't pulling very far and was 6K-10K lbs., I really prefer the SuperDuty crew cab 3/4 ton truck with the high tech 6.2 gasser. Over 10K lbs., I'm still going with the diesel.
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What does this information have to do with Class C's?

Good catch, Capt. Steve, maybe a moderator will move it to the proper forum.
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I put this in the towing forum, but a moderator moved it to class c forum for some reason?
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I put this in the towing forum, but a moderator moved it to class c forum for some reason?
Right now (5:25 p.m. CDT, 30 Sep 2014) it's in the
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I'll be surprised if the 2015 Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide shows any F-150 SuprCab or SuperCrew with anywhere close to 3,000 pounds net payload capacity.
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I think the payload will be close to the same as the 2014 model + the weight savings from the aluminum body(500-700lbs).
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I think the payload will be close to the same as the 2014 model + the weight savings from the aluminum body(500-700lbs).
I suspect you're right. The old HD Payload pkg is no more, but the replacement HD Payload Pkg sounds like it will be as robust, without those unpopular 7-lug 17-inch wheels.

My 2012 with 43,000+ miles is not even broken in good yet, but I'll be temped to trade it in on a new one with the HD Payload pkg and max towing pkg. When I ordered the 2012, I thought I didn't want the 3.73 axle required for the max tow pkg, and I sure didn't want the antiquated LS axle required for the HD Payload pkg. So I ordered the 3.15 ratio with e-locker. The e-locker is great - much better than the limited slip. But it turns out that with the EcoBoost engine the 3.73 ratio gets about the same MPG as the 3.15 , so this time I'll order the 3.73 e-locker that's now available with the HD Payload pkg.

The 2015 F-150 is not yet on Ford.com, but the build&price on
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Let's see them pass SAE J2807.
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Let's see them pass SAE J2807.
J2807 deals only with pulling power, i.e., GCWR, i.e., tow ratings. Most pickups with SRW rear axles and a decent engine can easily pull the GCWR. But GVWR (payload capacity for cargo and hitch weight) is the problem, and J2807 doesn't consider that. So we'll continue to see overloaded tow vehicles that meet J2807 but don't have enough payload capacity to haul the big trailers that J2807 indicates they can tow. They will still exceed the GVWR of the tow vehicle long before they reach the new J2807 tow rating.
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ecoboost:

Just pulled a 30p Avion from Central Illinois to Ft Worth, TX with no problems. The truck is a 2013 F 150 ecoboost, ext cab 4 door with 6.5 box, it has the heavy duty load & trailer packages, trailer hitch is a Husky equalizer. It downshifted from 6 to 5 a few times, but was the lowest it ever went. Gas mpg averaged 12 figured using a calculator, not the truck computer. gps

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