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Old 06-01-2015, 01:02 AM   #1
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New owner -silverado towing adjustments?

Purchased a WindRiver 2011 (dry wt listed 6225).

Have 2012 Silverado 1500. Std factory tow package

Unit seems to tow fine with WDH, but i noticed there is a huge sag on the rear shocks, wondering what to watch for in terms of use and wear. wondering if i need to look at heavy duty shocks or other devices?(suggestions?)

Saw some discussions on tranny fluid temps, what should i look to watch for?

Do most folks change fluids more frequently? Suggestions?

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Just a guess, but if the rear of the truck sags too much with the TT, you might need to adjust the hitch to put more weight on the front of the truck by adjusting the bars on the hitch. When set up properly, the truck and trailer should both be level. Perhaps a very small truck rear sag.
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Had distribution bars set up at Camping World and assumed they were competent! Assume --yes i know!

Know shocks absorb some of the load, but just wondering how much travel is appropriate and if I may need to look at stiffer shocks -wondering is stiffer springs or shocks will be needed

Seen discussions on tire pressure and ratings too. Gets my head spinning

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Old 06-01-2015, 06:56 AM   #4
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Had distribution bars set up at Camping World and assumed they were competent! Assume --yes i know!

Know shocks absorb some of the load, but just wondering how much travel is appropriate and if I may need to look at stiffer shocks -wondering is stiffer springs or shocks will be needed

Seen discussions on tire pressure and ratings too. Gets my head spinning

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Shocks absorb shock from bumps, and stiffer shocks may help keep the suspension from bottoming out on bumps, but they won't help sag.

The first thing to do is check the tongue weight of the trailer. Your trailer may be below the maximum tow capacity of your truck, but the tongue weight may exceed the rear axle weight rating. If that's the case, you need to redistribute cargo in the trailer. However, if you make the tongue too light, the trailer will tend to sway.

If you still have too much squat after re-adjusting your weight distribution bars and checking your tongue weight, your truck may need rear air bags or added helper springs. I believe both Air Lift and Firestone make air bags for 1/2-ton pickups.
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Agree...shocks help control bounce and recovery from bouncing. Not sag.

I see load leveling air bags in your future.

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We have a complete bolt on kit for your truck, which would help solve your issue. Let me know if you have any questions at all.
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X2, get a set of Air Lift air bags. This will allow you to adjust your truck back to a level position.
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Thanks, so how much squat is typical and whats too much? In inches?


I can measure height of rear bumper/hitch before and after putting trailer on.


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Shocks don't do squat for squat...

The WDH package should have had an instruction manual with it that shows how to adjust for...squat. There are several aspects that can be adjusted--height of hitch head, angle of hitch head and tension on the bars. All of these will factor in how the hitch works. The point at which the rear of the truck lowers the least in relation to the front is the best adjustment, but you may have to also change the hitch head height and/or the angle that the ball is off vertical.

Measure both front and rear wheel openings height when unhitched, record them. Then, on level ground, hitch up, measure again, and begin shortening the connectors between the arms and the trailer frame. Each adjustment adding tension on the bars should raise the rear of the truck and at some point will become extremely difficult to add more tension. Not sure which hitch you have, but it is possible to put too much tension on them. It also is easier to take links out of the chains, or other arm adjustments, if you lift both the truck and the trailer with the tongue jack.

It would certainly help to know what the weights are on your truck and trailer when loaded for camping--it may be necessary to move stuff in the trailer to reduce tongue weight. You may be close to too much trailer for your truck if you are loading it heavy.

If you can't get this adjusted correctly, your future travels will be affected negatively, and maybe unsafe. Have you contacted CW about taking it in for them to adjust it?

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Thanks, so how much squat is typical and whats too much? In inches?


I can measure height of rear bumper/hitch before and after putting trailer on.


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Most pickups sit high in the rear when empty. They should sit approximately level when fully loaded. When empty, our 1-ton is a little over 2" high at the rear axle and approximately 3" high at the receiver at the very back. Our truck sits level with our fiver attached (4100 lb pin wt).

The rear of your truck should not be noticeably low when your trailer is attached. If it is low, I wouldn't automatically assume you need air bags. I would start by adjusting the tension on the torsion bars as wingnut60 describes.
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This might help. Lots of good info
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Thanks, so how much squat is typical and whats too much? In inches?


I can measure height of rear bumper/hitch before and after putting trailer on.


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You want your truck to be level when hitched up and ready to travel. Level it by adjusting the WD hitch and if you can't get it level with the hitch Air Bags will do the trick.
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Seen discussions on tire pressure and ratings too. Gets my head spinning
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Head spinning or not , you need to run your truck and trailer ; loaded for travel over the scales, and get the weight on each axle. If you're overloading your rear tires ( or axle ) you will have trouble . Nothing will ruin a trip faster than a blowout.
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Thanks all for the info, i am concerned about WD and weight loads which is why I asked.

Understanding difference between shocks, springs and air bags now.

CW world set up the WDH but i do notice significant sag when the weight goes on the hitch, just wasn't sure how much it is and what should be.

They did not explain lifting hitch and tongue with jack before applying chains on WDH.
That would certainly be easier.

Will measure next Time im on flats and will also look to get scale wts but nearest is ~30 miles so will wait til i'm heading that direction




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