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Old 11-05-2013, 10:02 AM   #15
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If you are set on upgrading, why not look at the new 2014 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi. Great power with cylinder deactivation for good mpg's.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:46 PM   #16
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Chevy's new 6.2L will also have cylinder deactivation when not towing and should get 21mpg highway unloaded.

However, dodge usually always has better incentives and dealers tend to go way lower than MSRP if you shop around for a dodge.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:04 PM   #17
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Sunday as an experiment, we were out sight seeing and had a 2 hour drive back to the RV in NE Louisiana. It was pretty flat and with a few stops. I used the cruise control and set it on 55 mph with the truck in my signature. The dually has a 3.73 axle and weighs just under 9000#.

I reset the fuel computer just to see what we could do on such a run. Running around town, grocery shopping, Walmart and such we had been averaging 14.6 mpg. Not to shabby for such a beast with less than 9000 miles on it.

Anyway, the 55 mph run home with a few traffic light and a couple of towns, we averaged 23.1 mpg.

SO you do not need all of the cylinder deactivation and such. A diesel is more fule efficient than a gasser.

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Old 11-05-2013, 07:36 PM   #18
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I have had the Ford 7.3L, 6.0L, 6.4L and now the 6.7L diesel motors. Interestingly if you read the forums, each motor was a piece of crap until the next motor came out. Then the previous motor was the best.
I've read a lot of Forums too and I certainly don't see this. What I hear is that the 7.3 was good and still is and still holds great value.
The 6.0 was terrible, is terrible, and the next engine sure didn't make it look any better. I drive a 6.0 for work (unfortunately) and I can tell you it's a complete pile.
The 6.4 seemed okay if you could keep enough fuel in the tank.
Ford appears to have a winner on their hands (finally) with the new 6.7.
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A volunteer here has an F450 with the 6.4L and has has issues with it...so far covered nder warranty and extended warranty. The refuge has a 6.4L with just over 100K miles and it is setting DEAD...blown head gasket.

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Thanks for all the info, gents. I've made up my mind and will stick with the Ford brand. I get a deal much like the Ford employees through my company, so the only thing left is to get the deal made and take the bucks outa savings...

Got one all picked out...
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Congratulations on your choice.

Now you will possibly join the powersyroke forum and have lots fun reading about your truck.

I had a 98 GM and GM let me down and lots of other GM owners.
The GM forum had lots of guys with most of the solutions. They assured me I did have a great truck and by doing exactl˙ what I was told the truck was great and never once let me down in 9 years.
Same for my 2005 F250 intrenational Ford. Its not a Ford anymore because Ford did not earn the respect. They were to busy at blaming international for their mistakes. I followed the international maintenance program and I can say I have a great truck. And so does over 1 million that learn to stay away from Ford. Ford don't even want the 6.0 on trade-in.

I can say the new Ford diesel is great in house design from england and I feel they need to take the blame 100%. Might be a best investment.
All 3 diesels are the same but to me the body and 4 x 4 powertrain on the Ford is best and toughest.
Keep us informed.
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Congratulations on your choice.

Now you will possibly join the powersyroke forum and have lots fun reading about your truck.

I had a 98 GM and GM let me down and lots of other GM owners.
The GM forum had lots of guys with most of the solutions. They assured me I did have a great truck and by doing exactl˙ what I was told the truck was great and never once let me down in 9 years.
Same for my 2005 F250 intrenational Ford. Its not a Ford anymore because Ford did not earn the respect. They were to busy at blaming international for their mistakes. I followed the international maintenance program and I can say I have a great truck. And so does over 1 million that learn to stay away from Ford. Ford don't even want the 6.0 on trade-in.

I can say the new Ford diesel is great in house design from england and I feel they need to take the blame 100%. Might be a best investment.
All 3 diesels are the same but to me the body and 4 x 4 powertrain on the Ford is best and toughest.
Keep us informed.
Ford does not take anything on trade in. They are in the business of making the vehicles. The dealers are all independently owned by individual people or families. They take the trade in's. The 6.0L is also starting to go for pretty big money for a clean truck in my area also.

I don't know how much of the blame goes to Ford or International but many components of the international truck version of the 6.0L is interchangeable with the Ford based international 6.0L. They do use a different EGR valve though.
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Ford does not take anything on trade in. They are in the business of making the vehicles. The dealers are all independently owned by individual people or families. They take the trade in's. The 6.0L is also starting to go for pretty big money for a clean truck in my area also.

I don't know how much of the blame goes to Ford or International but many components of the international truck version of the 6.0L is interchangeable with the Ford based international 6.0L. They do use a different EGR valve though.
I know my truck cost as much to replace as I payed for it in 2007. Good trucks earlier then 2008 are getting impossible to buy. And gaining in value. All 3 that is.
I will surely keep mine as it's payed for.
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Just made the maiden haul of my fiver with my 2013 3500 Ram. Pulled 17k up Cajon pass here in ca @ 55 mph. 2000 rpm. Easy as can be.
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Just made the maiden haul of my fiver with my 2013 3500 Ram. Pulled 17k up Cajon pass here in ca @ 55 mph. 2000 rpm. Easy as can be.
We have a brand ram 3500 here at a work and i had to drive it last week. Completely unloaded with nothing in the bed yet, i was surprised and how well the truck's suspension handled. It wasn't overly stiff at all, and drove fairly nicely on the road unloaded, not jarring at all. Definitely impressed by how far suspension design has come over the years.
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I notice some bumps when we are cruising down the road but I chalk it up to the load we are towing and mostly the crappy freeways here in ca. We are really happy with the truck and how it hauls. I was passing 1/2 tons towing TT with ease going uphill.
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