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Old 08-24-2014, 01:40 AM   #1
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NEW TV / Ram 3500

So we currently have a Ford 2011 expedition with tow rating of 9200#. We tow a 6500# empty trailer. As we know it pushing the limits so we looking for a new TV.

I pretty much decided on the Ram 2014 3500 with the 3.73 axle. This has a rating of 12,600# which should gives us about 3500# than we currently have.

While this truck would met our needs, I believe. We are also looking at
the Diesel engine. As we owned a older ford excursion 10 years ago I
know diesels are more $$ to purchase and maintain. But understand the
jump in towing capacity with it.

Any one thoughts is the gas @ 12,600 going meet our needs in towing. Or any major reason to spend another 7K upfront on the diesel.

Also understand this will be a truck we use on a normal basis so I can
put on around 18 - 20K miles a year.

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Old 08-24-2014, 02:46 AM   #2
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I have a Ram 3500 diesel mega cab which I have been pulling 12K pounds up and over the western US. The power to pull the hills in CA, WY, Utah, etc is phenomenal but the engine brake with the diesel is probably my favorite feature as it allows me to safely decline in the mountains. The Diesel engines last forever so if you plan to keep it then buy diesel. If you plan on changing vehicles in a few years the gas may work for you.



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Old 08-24-2014, 09:43 AM   #3
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If you plan on getting a larger TT or 5th wheel then by all means go diesel. I tow 9000lbs with my 12 Ram CTD and have no desire to go back to gas unless I towed less. @9000lbs I could GET by with a gasser, but I don't want to just get by. I live in Oregon and we're always climbing or descending something.

If you think that you'll always stay with the weight you have now then stay with gas. No reason to spend $7000.00 extra if you don't need it. When we bought our Ram we had a 7300lb TT. We now have a 9000lb 5'er and in 4 years are looking to get something in the 11-12,000lb loaded range.
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I would also go diesel, but on another note, consider the rear air suspension! Will give you a better/smoother ride unloaded and firm up/level up when you load it. If I was in the market now, I'd switch to Ram just to get it...
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:43 PM   #5
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Are you looking at a DRW or SRW truck 3500 Ram?

The reason I ask is from 2013.5 and up the new SRW trucks only come with a 3:42 differential. The ratings on this truck with the AISIN 6 sped auto and 4X2 CCLB are as follows: 17,160 LBS for max trailer weight, GCVW is 25,000 LBS, Gross axle weights front 5,500 LBS, Rear 7,000 LBS Gross Vehicle Weight is 12,000 LBS. The 68REF is about 300 LBS more in capacity over the AISIN transmission.

From what I have read on Turbo Diesel Register. Com web site is that everyone who has the SRW truck and have towed heavy with them are extremely happy with the towing performance and the fuel mileage on them.

A diesel provides more torque than the HEMI and this is what counts when you are towing a heavy trailer. And the diesel develops the torque down low in the power range and maintains this thru the useful engine RPM’s. I tow a 11,000LB 5er and I tow this around 1,500 RPM at 60 to 65 MPH all day long with my truck.


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I have a 2013 RAM with a CTD and AISIN tranney. It's a crew cab long bed DRW 4x4. The engine brake is outstanding, and when coupled with the tow-haul mode keeping the speed level constant while going downhill is a breeze. I tow a 16,500 FW and get between 10 and 11 mpg in moderately hilly country, a bit less where the roads are steep, 17 mpg or so empty. Being from Maine, I recommend 4wd for a DRW, as the empty weight spread out onto 6 tires can make wet grass and mud, and especially ice difficult to start up on.
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was told in 2014 the one ton Ram is only available as DRW. .. so if you want the ram as SRW you will need to buy used. gm and ford of curse still has the SRW.
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was told in 2014 the one ton Ram is only available as DRW. .. so if you want the ram as SRW you will need to buy used. gm and ford of curse still has the SRW.
Not so. I just saw a pile of single rear wheel 3500 at the dealership where I traded. The 3500 does have leaf springs though like always. They do not have coil springs like the 2013 up 2500 have.

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Only way to get a 3:73 is with the Dually.

All 2500/3500 SRW's have 3:42's.

Dually options are 4:10, 3:73 and 3:42.

68RFE available in all mentioned, Aisin available in 3500's only.
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was told in 2014 the one ton Ram is only available as DRW. .. so if you want the ram as SRW you will need to buy used. gm and ford of curse still has the SRW.
Do not believe intern rumors. I have a 2014 Ram truck brochure that list the 3500SRW trucks with the Cummins and the following transmissions manual, 68RFE and the AISIN all with the 3:42 differential. Also the Ram Body Builder . Com which is on line provides information on the SRW trucks also. Here is the link:

http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2014/d...ammlup3500.pdf

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Will I end up getting a single 3500 with the 3.73. With the 6.4 Hemi gas engine. BTW the 3.73 is standard on the trucks for 2014. By the time I
was the dealer I am sure was done with me. But I wanted every dollar in
rebates I could possible get.

I only had it a day or so we see how we like it.
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Will I end up getting a single 3500 with the 3.73. With the 6.4 Hemi gas engine. BTW the 3.73 is standard on the trucks for 2014. By the time I
was the dealer I am sure was done with me. But I wanted every dollar in
rebates I could possible get.

I only had it a day or so we see how we like it.
Are you saying the 3500 RAM SRW is available or standard with a 3:73 with just the gas engine?
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Will I end up getting a single 3500 with the 3.73. With the 6.4 Hemi gas engine. BTW the 3.73 is standard on the trucks for 2014. By the time I
was the dealer I am sure was done with me. But I wanted every dollar in
rebates I could possible get.

I only had it a day or so we see how we like it.
Yes they are available on gas engine trucks. Good luck with the truck!
My biggest issue with gas trucks is trying to fill them up with the trailer attach. Most of the time gas stations are not design for filling up the truck at the gas islands and camper attached especially when you are 53ft plus in length and the 5er is 13 ft tall.

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Are you saying the 3500 RAM SRW is available or standard with a 3:73 with just the gas engine?
Yes the 3:73 is standard on the 3500 RAM SRW with either the 5.7L Gas or the 6.4L gas engine. You can upgrade to the 4:10 which will give you another 3000# towing cap, from 12,600 to 15,600.
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