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Old 07-04-2007, 08:38 AM   #1
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Completely new to RV's and have a question about towing really big 5th wheel trailers. The ones I'm talking about are the three axle "toy haulers" which have dry weights in the 14-16,000lb range.

The question is - what kind of truck to people use to tow these monsters? Most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks seem to top out at about 12-13,000 lbs trailer weight.

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Old 07-04-2007, 08:38 AM   #2
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Completely new to RV's and have a question about towing really big 5th wheel trailers. The ones I'm talking about are the three axle "toy haulers" which have dry weights in the 14-16,000lb range.

The question is - what kind of truck to people use to tow these monsters? Most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks seem to top out at about 12-13,000 lbs trailer weight.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:50 AM   #3
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You will need to look at the Ford F350 dually with the Tow Boss package or an F450. You can also look at the 4500 series from GM. These wil have the rating to pull the trailer.

Glad to have you here. We have large active group in the Houston area. As a matter of fact there is a bunch of them camped at Rayford Crossing near the Woodlands. Be a good chance to see some of the rigs and thjey do love to show them off.

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Speaking of liking to show them off see my webshots link in my signature. Never worry about being over toter's load limit. Jim
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:30 AM   #5
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Thanks for the welcome!

My wife and I have a rather ambitious goal of selling our home and going full-time RV for a year or so until we settle in the PNW. As such, we are trying to find an RV that suits our desires. We have two kids (3 and 7) and also 2 cats to consider bringing along. Our current thinking is a 5th wheel as the safest option.

It's easy to get carried away looking at big, luxurious trailers. The reality sets in when you look at how much they weigh!
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Welcome to irv2.com! I wish to congratulate you for your insight. It seems the most common mistake for beginners is to buy a RV too large for their tow vehicle. You are on the right path.
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Think ONLY DIESEL, it pulls better, and will give you many miles of service after the gas engines have fizzled. Going up a mountain is no problem if you have the power, but try it with an undersize engine, FORGET IT.
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:39 AM   #8
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No convincing necessary on the diesel part - my wife and I both drive diesel cars (running biodiesel) and I would consider nothing else.
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The Ford F350 is rated to tow a maximum of 16,600 lbs, and thats with a base truck.

HERE is a link to the Ford towing guide.

You're up in the MDT/HDT range with that kind of load.
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Those are some impressive numbers!

I found the 2008 guide, which seems to have lower numbers.

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Hmmm...looks like the F-450 4x2 pickup has a manufacturer's trailer tow rating of up to 24,500 lbs in the 2008 preliminary guide. See page 3 of 5 - 5th wheel towing.

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What kind of highway speeds do you get with a 4.10 or 4.30 rear end?
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Depends on the overdrive ratio in the transmission, the tire diameter, the engine's working rev range, etc. The 24,500 rating is with 4.88 gears and automatic transmission.

My truck, with 4.10 gears and LT235/85R-16 Michelin XPS Rib tires (a little taller than the OEM tires of the same size) is turning about 2300 RPM at 70 MPH in 6th gear.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PNW Dreaming:
What kind of highway speeds do you get with a 4.10 or 4.30 rear end? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the tow boss package on my 2006 F350 (4.30 gears, 26,000lbs combined) What do you mean by highway speeds?? I can get a speeding ticket in any state, but the fuel mileage really stinks when I go faster than 65. I get about 10.8 mpg if I don't go faster than 65. Our Excel wieghs about 15,250 right now. When not towing I get about 12 around town, 15.5 on the highway
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