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Old 08-06-2015, 11:43 AM   #15
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BTDT, pulling a cargo trailer with my ex inlaw. He was driving and got drousy, dropped a wheel onto the breakdown lane and yanked it back onto the roadway. That was all it took and we started the back and forth. As the trailer passed us and we did two complete 360's I saw the tanker truck just a hundred feet or so with his brakes locked up to try to not hit us. He was able to stop as we slid on into a soft Median. Took a tow truck to get us out of the mud and had to shift things around in the trailer to even out the load, Nothing broke and nothing hurt except my Father In-Laws pride.

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Old 08-06-2015, 03:10 PM   #16
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The possible solution was to take his foot off the gas and manually apply the trailer brakes, yes?

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Old 08-06-2015, 03:24 PM   #17
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When you guys refer to sway bars, is that in reference to the vehicle or the TT?

I am trying to learn about this stuff before I make a purchase.
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Old 08-06-2015, 04:38 PM   #18
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This had to be done on purpose as a stunt...just has to be because no-one is that stupid...are they???
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Old 08-06-2015, 05:06 PM   #19
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This had to be done on purpose as a stunt...just has to be because no-one is that stupid...are they???
Yes they are. A few years ago, there was a big story about an Expedition pulling a trailer, driving like he was at the Indy 500, started swaying, rolled the camper and the Expy.

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Old 08-06-2015, 05:18 PM   #20
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When you guys refer to sway bars, is that in reference to the vehicle or the TT?

I am trying to learn about this stuff before I make a purchase.
The sway bars connect from the trailer tongue to the hitch on the truck. There is also a sway brake that connects from the tongue to the hitch. The combo of both can make a lot of difference but it doesn't replace common sense and caution.
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Old 08-06-2015, 06:10 PM   #21
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This had to be done on purpose as a stunt...just has to be because no-one is that stupid...are they???
Oh when it comes to stupid, this is no where near the limit (In fact per Einstein there is no limit, and he was a very smart man)
(or so the quote is attributed,Not sure he ever said it)

This video has been analyzed by folks who claim to be experts and it appears he was not going all that fast, the tow vehicle was or should have been up to the job it is not known why the trailer filpped. IF, as it appears, nobody got hurt then there is no reason for the trucker who filmed it to stop and very good reason for him to carry on.

Note that I have been there (Witnessed some super stupid crashes) and once I determined driver was OK continued on.

Of course in that case... Folks at the office were watching via remote camera.

That said: Why did he not apply trailer brakes? Well it appears several of us have had some exposure to professional drivers who know about applying trailer brakes to regain control of a trailer,, Others may well have studied physics and understand how that can help.. Still others have no clue and that driver.. Was in the "No Clue" group. That's the only thing I can think of.

NOTE: I once pulled a 2,000 pound trailer with a 3/4 ton truck (Dodge Tradsman van.. the number 250 comes to mind)

That little trailer given half a chance, the first time I towed it fishtailed like a very happy dog's tail.

Second time I towed it it "Fistailed" like the bed of a straight truck (Tracked well and true) Yes.. I did a bit of mosification (Reese friction sway control bar) and it worked.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:26 PM   #22
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I looked at the video again and again. I believe the trailer came unhooked too easily to have had a WDH attached. Driver has a big truck and medium trailer and thought he did not need a WDH with anti-sway. Same thing on another thread and dually pulling a long TT that flips in high side winds. NO WDH, which mean NO anti-sway.
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Looks like the truck driver kept going. Smart driver, no need to block the road even more.
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The possible solution was to take his foot off the gas and manually apply the trailer brakes, yes?
The reason is that unless you can match the speed that the truck is slowing down to the amount of brake you apply to the trailer (stopping) it still will jack knife. What I was taught is to stay on the gas steady and not increase speed while applying the trailer brakes. This will “pull” the trailer straight and will slow the truck to get them back in line. Once you get it under control, you can stop on the side of the highway safely, grab a cold Coke, and change your pants. I had to do this quite a bit with my old rig (74 F-100 with 24’ 5th wheel, about 15,000 lb total) towing in the west.

In the video, the trailer was in the process of passing the truck. My guess is that the driver was hard on the brakes when the “wag” got very bad and this caused the trailer to come around and when it got on two wheels over it went. If the road had been wet or slick a good chance that it would had spun around. In addition, the truck it was passing is referred to as a classic they push more air then the newer aerodynamic tractors. I have come on many wrecks like this after the fact over the years driving a big rig.

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