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Old 01-24-2016, 12:17 AM   #1
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Hi, I'm a newbie to this site and also to 5th wheel towing. I have a 2015 GMC 2500 HD gasoline truck. I am looking to purchase a used Toy Hauler for camping with the family. The toy hauler is 38F. long and weighs 11,250 Lbs. empty. I'm not planning on hauling water or fuel in the camper but I am wondering if this trailer is possibly to heavy for my truck. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I did review some of the load specs posted on other Forums but I was not able to open them up to get answers. I just don't want to buy something I am not going to be able to pull safely down the road.

Thanks again, Roland
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You're going to have a problem as the gas engine is not going to be sufficient to pull that big of a trailer.

You need a diesel for that size trailer.
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:44 AM   #3
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Rilojr,

You don't say exactly what the configuration of your truck is, but 4X4 with crew cab and a short bed is very popular. Assuming that's what you have, the 5th wheel towing capacity for the 6.0 liter gas engine is 14,000 lbs while the diesel is 17,100 lbs according to the 2015 Chevy brochure. Capacities for the long box will be slightly lower, and for the standard cab and/or 2WD will be slightly higher.

That being said, if you're planning to haul any toys (why else would you buy a toy hauler?), it will be fairly easy to get the weight of a 5th wheel with a dry weight of 11,250 up to the 14,000 lb max. I would be looking for a lighter trailer or a bigger truck.
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Caution, the tow weights listed above are for a stripped truck with only a 150# driver. Realistically, once the truck is loaded, you can tow only about 80% of the MAXIMUM tow rating. To know for sure, you need to weigh the truck with full fuel, family, normal load in the bed, and a hitch.

GVWR - loaded truck = maximum loaded trailer pin weight.

GCWR - loaded truck = maximum loaded trailer weight.

Trailer pin weight will run about 20% of the trailers GVWR.

Also the trailer dry weight will not include any listed options, such as awning, TV, microwave, full propane, batteries, etc. A typical trailer can run 500# and up over the dry weight.

You will find the 6.0L gas engine a real disappointment for towing that much trailer.

Minimum truck I would look for is a 1 ton SRW diesel, provided it can handle the pin weight.

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Old 01-24-2016, 09:06 AM   #5
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I have a 2015 GMC 2500 HD gasoline truck. ...The toy hauler is 38F. long and weighs 11,250 Lbs. empty.
Tow rating is about 14k, so that means you have enough power and drivetrain to tow up to 14k trailer without burning up the drivetrain and without being the slowpoke on hills and passes.

GVWR is about 9,300. That's your limiter as to max trailer weight. Properly loaded and balanced load in the toy hauler should result in about 17% hitch weight. If the trailer grosses 14k, then hitch weight will be about 2,400 pounds. That means that the most the wet and loaded truck could weigh without being overloaded is 9,300 minus 2,400 = 6,900 pounds. That's achieveable, but just barely. You have to be concerned with every pound of people and stuff you haul in the pickup.

My '99 F-250 usually grossed about 8,000 pounds when wet and loaded for a trip, with 5er hitch and toolbox and Darling Wife. My diesel engine added about 600 pounds to my truck weight over the 6.0L gasser in your Jimmy. So mine if a gasser would have grossed about 7,400. That would be 500 pounds overloaded with your wet and loaded toy hauler tied on.

Conclusion. You probably don't have enough truck to tow a 14k toy hauler without being overloaded.
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Your foot will get to know the floor board really well. If you live in TX or FL then you could do it. The 1st good hill or worse yet mtn you come to you'll be wondering why you bought such a heavy trailer.
JMO but I would tow anything over 10,000lbs with a gasser.
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OP, aside from the advice here, I'd mosey over to one of the GM-Truck forums and view their HD truck and towing sub forums and you'll get a view of what these trucks are capable of.
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Caution, the tow weights listed above are for a stripped truck with only a 150# driver. Realistically, once the truck is loaded, you can tow only about 80% of the MAXIMUM tow rating. To know for sure, you need to weigh the truck with full fuel, family, normal load in the bed, and a hitch.

GVWR - loaded truck = maximum loaded trailer pin weight.

GCWR - loaded truck = maximum loaded trailer weight.

Trailer pin weight will run about 20% of the trailers GVWR.

Also the trailer dry weight will not include any listed options, such as awning, TV, microwave, full propane, batteries, etc. A typical trailer can run 500# and up over the dry weight.

You will find the 6.0L gas engine a real disappointment for towing that much trailer.

Minimum truck I would look for is a 1 ton SRW diesel, provided it can handle the pin weight.

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