Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion
Click Here to Login
Register FilesVendors Registry Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-18-2013, 04:47 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tennessee/Mich.
Posts: 307
Question Question about a Truck that use natural gas..

My New Chev Truck can use natural gas as fuel and wondering what I would get in mpg? Thanks, Bob

2014 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Wildbob52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-18-2013, 05:15 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Alan24601's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 690
I drove a CNG Honda for five years and it delivered about the same mpg as a gasoline version. CNG has about 2/3 the BTU of gasoline but it has a much higher octane rating, about 130. My Honda only ran on CNG and it had a 12 1/2 to 1 compression ratio. If your truck runs on both gasoline and CNG I think you will see a drop in mpg. If you run on CNG exclusively you will find the oil never changes color,very clean burning.
Alan24601 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2013, 09:01 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
This is from 50% experience with CNG and 50% knowlegabe opinion (opinion was told to me but I do not believe it fully.

I drove a CNG / Gasoline car for a few trips. The car performed poorly on CNG. When I flipped the switch from CNG to gasoline the car was a lot more zippy.

I was told the car performed poorly on CNG because it was tuned to run on gasoline.

I can kinda believe some of that but because CNG produces a lot less energy (BTU) than gasoline I am not convinced CNG is a viable automobile fuel yet.

Also back in the 90's there was a push for CNG that never took off in the USA.
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
schrederman's Avatar
 
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Weatherford, TX
Posts: 975
Truckers/railroaders are researching diesel/CNG hybrids that... as I understand it... run on both at the same time. This, if it becomes reality, will create much less demand for diesel, and those prices may fall... which would make diesel owners very happy...
schrederman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 03:18 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
glarnold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bellevue, Nebraska
Posts: 491
It's been my experience that when demand drops, prices go up. And when demand increases, prices go up.

JMHO

GL Arnold
__________________
2015 Ford Flex SEL
Former Full-Timers
glarnold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 04:27 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
DonDee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,226
Quote:
Originally Posted by glarnold View Post
It's been my experience that when demand drops, prices go up. And when demand increases, prices go up.

JMHO

GL Arnold
__________________
Don, Mary and Spooky
'00 Bluebird Skoolie Conversion
Geo Tracker/Dodge Neon/Aprilia Scooter towed
DonDee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2013, 10:02 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
schrederman's Avatar
 
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Weatherford, TX
Posts: 975
Quote:
Originally Posted by glarnold View Post
It's been my experience that when demand drops, prices go up. And when demand increases, prices go up.

JMHO

GL Arnold
I hate to... but I agree...
schrederman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2013, 06:42 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Ray,IN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,982
Gasoline contains 110,250 btu per gallon.
CNG contains the GGE (gallon of gasoline-equivalent)114,716.88 btu
Reference: http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fue...ison_chart.pdf
__________________
2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG 11B5MX,Infantry retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA." My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy
Ray,IN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2013, 07:32 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
iawoody2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 201
For now, locally cng is about half price of gas.
__________________
2013 F250 Super Crew, 4x4, powerstrke
2013 Sundance 3310 CL, Platinum
iawoody2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2013, 08:42 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,024
The biggest problem with CNG vehicles I know of is gas stations,, Not many of them.. in teh country where I'm currently parked I know of only 4 and two of those are fleet stations owned by the fleet owner (Detroit Department of Transportation and DTE Enegery) only two are open to the public.. I used to get gasoline at one of 'em.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2013, 01:22 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
jimcumminsw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Oswego IL
Posts: 2,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbob52 View Post
My New Chev Truck can use natural gas as fuel and wondering what I would get in mpg? Thanks, Bob

2014 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
There are two forms of Natural Gas; Compress Natural Gas and Liquefied Natural Gas both have their disadvantages and advantages. Which version does your Chevy use? Is this a fleet truck of some sorts?

To me storage tank size for a pick-up truck would be a disadvantage since the Compress Natural Gas is stored at up to pressures of 3600psi and that it will take almost three gallons of natural gas to equal one gallon of gasoline energy. This tank would take up some space of the bed area so you will lose carrying capacity of the truck. You will also need a compressor and filling station that provides the ability to pump CNG. Advantage is lower cost and fewer emissions when natural gas is used. Now if the truck gets 21 MPG with gasoline it may get the 7 miles to the gallon with CNG. But the cost would be lower since CNG cost less and the US is an exporter of natural gas.

Now LNG is cooled to -165F to -260F and the tank size is smaller since it takes about 1.35 gallons of LNG to provide the equivalent of one gallon of gasoline energy and there is very little pressures involve about 4psi. Tank size is smaller than CNG but still larger than the gasoline tank plus it will need to be super cooled at all times since LNG is not a natural state for natural gas. Again you will need to find a station that provides the LNG and ability to pump the LNG. Advantage also would be lower cost and fewer emissions as above with CNG. Again if the truck was to achieve 21 MPG with gasoline it would get about 15 to 16 a gallon with LNG but again the cost would be lower.

Jim W.
__________________
Jim & Jill
Sold: 2010 318SAB Cougar:New: 2016 Cedar Creek 34RL. 2008 Dodge 6.7LCummins the original 6.7L engine, w/68RFE Auto
jimcumminsw is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gas



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.