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Old 12-29-2012, 07:32 PM   #1
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Question Question about Engine Block Heater

I've been told the new diesel trucks don't need a engine block heater and what years are they?


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Old 12-29-2012, 07:51 PM   #2
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Don't know about that, I am curious as to where you heard it. Diesel engines work on heat, anything that will warm up the anti-freeze will help the engine start better. On the North Slope of Alaska, there are trucks whose engines run for six months non-stop to keep them from freezing.

Is an engine block heater a REQUIREMENT? No, but having your engine warm does make starting easier and IMHO reduces stress on engine components. Even with the moderate winter temperatures in Middle Tennessee, I find the engine block heater to be most helpful in starting on the cold winter mornings.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:52 PM   #3
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If an engine is cold, the oil is in the pan. and that oil is cold, thus sluggish- like molasses trying to circulate to lubricate. If the engine is warm, so is the oil, and when that happens- the quicker is that to lubricate. Old school/new school- I heard a new coach struggle to start because it was cold. Mine catches first lick. Easier on the engine and components. FYI
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:04 PM   #4
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Don't know about that, I am curious as to where you heard it. Diesel engines work on heat, anything that will warm up the anti-freeze will help the engine start better. On the North Slope of Alaska, there are trucks whose engines run for six months non-stop to keep them from freezing.

Is an engine block heater a REQUIREMENT? No, but having your engine warm does make starting easier and IMHO reduces stress on engine components. Even with the moderate winter temperatures in Middle Tennessee, I find the engine block heater to be most helpful in starting on the cold winter mornings.
I was by a GM dealer's saleman that the new diesel trucks don't need a engine block heater. This truck didn't need a heater he said.

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Old 12-29-2012, 08:46 PM   #5
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1 - Requires (MW7) Allison 1000 6-speed automatic transmission. Includes (K40) exhaust brake, (TUV) heavy-duty dual, 730 cold-cranking-amp battery and (K05) engine block heater.

This is a paste and copy from GM '13 model online ordering guide.

The block heater is a RPO code K05 and is std on the Dmax according the the GM ordering guide.

Now having said that Dodge started shipping the Cummins minus a 110v cord for the block heater. The cord was a option.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:48 PM   #6
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Newer trucks dont have block heater unless you want one. Its probably a way for them to cut more cost. I however use mine almost daily since its cheaper then letting it idle forever. Plus the new emissions stuff hates idling.
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My '05 Duramax came from the factory with an engine block heater. They hid the cord so well I didn't think it had one. It always sat outside and always started, even in below zero temps., for 3 years. When I learned it did have a block heater I used it a few times but didn't see the point since it always started without one. I now keep my truck in a heated garage so i don't bother with it.
Older diesels from many years ago were very difficult to start without being "plugged in". A block heater was absolutely necessary. Newer diesels will start without one so it's not mandatory. However, I would recommend using one if you have it since it is easier on the engine. As for years, I would say most any Duramax will normally start without a heater. The earlier 6.5 and 6.2 GM diesels, probably not so much.
I'm not too familiar with the other brands.
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Newer trucks dont have block heater unless you want one. Its probably a way for them to cut more cost. I however use mine almost daily since its cheaper then letting it idle forever. Plus the new emissions stuff hates idling.
You got that right. Letting a diesel engine sit and run at low idle is quite hard on it. A diesel engine running at low idle will never reach normal operating temperature, especially in cold weather.
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For years, the so-called engine block heater was standard in Ford diesel. For the 7.3L PowerStroke, it wasn't actually in the block, but was in the oil filter housing which was also one end of the engine oil heater. The "block" heating element was in the coolant part of that housing, but since it was near the oil filter a lot of folks assumed it heated the oil instead of the coolant.

Then several years ago, except in very cold states, Ford stopped including the electric cord for the block heater as standard in most states, and made it an option. The heating element was installed at the factory, but not the cord to plug it in. That special cord was a factory option for new trucks, or you could buy it from any Ford dealer. But it's not cheap. Aftermarket OEM part is over $100, but knock-off brand cords are available for around $25.
New 2011 2012 Ford F 250 F 350 F 450 Block Heater Cord 6 7L Diesel | eBay

For 2012 model year, the Ford SuperDuty Order Guide options include:
Engine Block Heater (Std in AK, CO, IA, ID, ME, MI, MN, MT, ND, NH, NY, SD, VT, WI,, WY)

That list of cold states has varied by a few states over the years. IIRC, VT and NH were added after a few years of screaming and hollering from Yankeeland. But MA is still not considered a "cold" state.)
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My 2012 F350 is in Texas and has a block heater from the factory. It is not listed as an option, unless it was included buried in a package.

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If the one one the lot they are trying to sell you doesnt have an engine block heater then they will tell you it doesnt need it.
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Granted the new Diesels with GlowPlugs will start in cold weather, BUT having it plugged in and the block warm sure makes it much easier on everything, and as a plus you'll get heat from the heater much quicker. Read just about any automotive forum and they will tell you the hardest thing on an engine is the cold start
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