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Old 03-30-2013, 08:32 PM   #1
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Rail Kit or a Gooseball?

Newbie has a question. I just bought a new TV and need a hitch. Is there a big difference between a rail kit for a fifth wheel hitch or a gooseneck ball. My old TV had the rail kit and pulled fine. But just wondering if a gooseneck ball would be better? I know the rail kit will run 390.00 installed and the B&W gooseneck ball will run around 500.00 installed plus the added expense of buying a fifth wheel adapter for the ball? Just wondering if the extra money is worth getting the ball? All opinions are helpful thanks in advance.

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Old 03-30-2013, 11:34 PM   #2
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You will find many threads on this subject in the fifth wheel forum. There are very few 5er manufacturers that approve the use of a gooseneck adapter to tow a 5er because of the way the front of the 5er frame is built. I considered it when we bought our 1st 5er (prior to being informed of the previous sentence) but when I found out I would have to crawl into the truck-bed to hook/ unhook the safety chains every time, I forgot the idea.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:26 PM   #3
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You're mixing your apples and oranges with your peas and squash.

Then you clarified it somewhat by defining a gooseneck ball as a B&W TurnOver Ball.

If you have a TurnOver ball installed, there are two different ways to convert to a fifth wheel hitch.

1] Convert the pinbox on the trailer to a gooseneck adapter hitch that will fit onto your TurnOver ball. That's common, but very few 5ers are engineered for the additional stress and strain the gooseneck adapter puts on the trailer frame, so the trailer manufacturers will void the trailer warranty if you do it.

2] Remove the TurnOver ball and put a B&W Companion 5er hitch in the place where the TurnOver ball fits. Works good if you don't need a slider hitch, and the trailer warranty is not affected.

The TurnOver ball plus the Companion hitch will probably cost more than simply installing a 5er hitch. The only reason to do that is if you often tow both gooseneck and 5er trailers, so you need both hitches.

But the B&W products is only one way to tow both a gooseneck and 5er with the same truck. Another way is to install an "industry standard" Reese 5er hitch, plus buy a gooseneck ball that will plug into the same bedrails used by the 5er hitch.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:11 AM   #4
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Thanks everybody and Smokey thanks for saying it how I meant for it to be. I went with the rails mainly because it was the easiest on my wallet. I only pull my camper so a gooseneck ball I really wouldn't use and I have a SB so I need a slider hitch. Thanks again and since I'm new at this I'm sure I'll have more questions coming soon.
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You're mixing your apples and oranges with your peas and squash.

Then you clarified it somewhat by defining a gooseneck ball as a B&W TurnOver Ball.

If you have a TurnOver ball installed, there are two different ways to convert to a fifth wheel hitch.

1] Convert the pinbox on the trailer to a gooseneck adapter hitch that will fit onto your TurnOver ball. That's common, but very few 5ers are engineered for the additional stress and strain the gooseneck adapter puts on the trailer frame, so the trailer manufacturers will void the trailer warranty if you do it.

2] Remove the TurnOver ball and put a B&W Companion 5er hitch in the place where the TurnOver ball fits. Works good if you don't need a slider hitch, and the trailer warranty is not affected.

The TurnOver ball plus the Companion hitch will probably cost more than simply installing a 5er hitch. The only reason to do that is if you often tow both gooseneck and 5er trailers, so you need both hitches.

But the B&W products is only one way to tow both a gooseneck and 5er with the same truck. Another way is to install an "industry standard" Reese 5er hitch, plus buy a gooseneck ball that will plug into the same bedrails used by the 5er hitch.
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Just putting my 2 cents in....has anyone tried the Andersen Ultimate Connection?? It gives you the ease of a gooseneck and you can pull ANY 5er you wish or any gooseneck trailer... all you need is the Blue Ox Diamond Hitch and the Ultimate Connection and you have the best of both...www.YouTube.com/andersenultimateconnection
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Just putting my 2 cents in....has anyone tried the Andersen Ultimate Connection?? It gives you the ease of a gooseneck and you can pull ANY 5er you wish or any gooseneck trailer... all you need is the Blue Ox Diamond Hitch and the Ultimate Connection and you have the best of both...
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They left out one important point, the safety chains required by law in many states for any ball hitch. There is a good reason for the safety chain requirement, ball hitches can pop loose in sharp twisting motions. Ball hitches are inherently less reliable than king-pin hitches, that's one reason why all semi's use king-pins.
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My nephew has the Anderson Hitch in his 2011 Chevy 2500 HD and he loves it.
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