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Old 04-30-2019, 05:05 PM   #1
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Ram 1500 V8 vs F350

I'm debating trading in the 2017 F350 SRW CC 6.2 4x4 for a Ram 1500 5.7 V8, SRW, CC, 4x4. It would be much better for daily driving

BUT

I'd need to pull a >9,000# laden travel trailer 3-4 times per year.

With the 3.92 rear axle, it should pull 11,700# and support 1,800# cargo capacity (hitch weight is around 1,200#.

Is this crazy or are poeple doing this with success?

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Old 04-30-2019, 05:26 PM   #2
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Crazy. Ram 1500s are decent drivers and good for towing up to maybe 7000 pounds. Of course fuel economy will suck big time pulling a loaded trailer. 9000 pounds? I would not. You likely wound not be happy doing it. Too soft of a suspension, really not stout enough. Now if you got a Ram 2500 with the same power train you would be much happier. Loaded at 9000 pounds will still be a miserable tow, but....
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Old 04-30-2019, 06:22 PM   #3
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Not a good match imho. I have a 2015 ram 1500 w/ 3.92s. Love the powertrain but it's not a good TV for a trailer as big as yours. I tow a 7000 gvwr trailer and it does the job very well but it's at the limit of a comfortable tow. If I upgrade trailers I'm upgrading the TV too. Rams sweet ride is at the expense of a softer suspension. Factory springs are too soft. I switched mine out and I tow dead level. If I still had factory springs it would no doubt have a saggy rear end even being within all weight ratings.
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Not a good match imho. I have a 2015 ram 1500 w/ 3.92s. Love the powertrain but it's not a good TV for a trailer as big as yours. I tow a 7000 gvwr trailer and it does the job very well but it's at the limit of a comfortable tow. If I upgrade trailers I'm upgrading the TV too. Rams sweet ride is at the expense of a softer suspension. Factory springs are too soft. I switched mine out and I tow dead level. If I still had factory springs it would no doubt have a saggy rear end even being within all weight ratings.
My friend put air bags on his to tow his 32 ft. TT. It was sagging due to the coil springs on the rear.
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My friend put air bags on his to tow his 32 ft. TT. It was sagging due to the coil springs on the rear.
Yep. Those coils are what sells the truck though. Everyone loves the unloaded ride. I actually prefer the unloaded ride with my new springs. Rear end feels planted to the road and it's not harsh at all. I went with the TTC1211 springs but many like the ttc1223v variable. Easy to install and only took 30 mins in the driveway. Imho- the 1211 or 1223v should be stock or at least an option with the towing package.

Airbags are great choice as well but I don't daily drive my truck so stiffer springs were a better no maintenance option. Either way, Ram's stock coils aren't good at all for towing a TT. Or hauling anything heavy. 20 bags of mulch shouldnt lift the front tires off the ground. Lol
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Old 04-30-2019, 07:40 PM   #6
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I'm debating trading in the 2017 F350 SRW CC 6.2 4x4 for a Ram 1500 5.7 V8, SRW, CC, 4x4. It would be much better for daily driving

BUT

I'd need to pull a >9,000# laden travel trailer 3-4 times per year.

With the 3.92 rear axle, it should pull 11,700# and support 1,800# cargo capacity (hitch weight is around 1,200#.

Is this crazy or are poeple doing this with success?

--Brian
Crazy...maybe. Unsafe? In my opinion, yes! I am pretty sure you'd be at or over maximum RAWR. You can put all the airbags, stiffer springs and what not but it wont change the fact that the rear axle is NOT a full floating design and will eventually fail with that weight. Brakes, chassis and such are not designed for that weight and you'd feel it.

I wouldn't trade my 3500 for a 1500 over ride quality. My one ton may be a bit stiffer, barely, but if I lowered tire pressure to 45-50 psi I doubt there'd be much difference in feel overall. I LOVE a firm chassis.
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Old 05-01-2019, 07:40 AM   #7
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Thanks for the great replies.

F350 Advantages: heavier, stronger drivetrain, stronger axles, stronger brakes, tougher frame, better tires, etc, etc.

Ram 1500 Advantages:smaller, lower, smooth ride, better fuel mpg, wife would drive it as a daily driver versus the F350 collecting dust in the driveway all except 2 weeks out of the year. Guess that's it.

(She hates the unsprung drive quality of the F350. I could replace springs, maybe consider air suspension, but it is still too tall for her to feel comfortable driving.)

Thus my dilemma, it'd be nice if we had a truck that was used more than 2-3 TT trips a year. I bought the truck when we were considering a 5th wheeler and wanted to have "enough truck". In hindsight, I should have stayed under 7,000# with a shorter TT setup. We never travel with more than 4 total bodies and will end up with maybe even a Class B down the road for ease of usage.
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A half ton is not enough truck for that much trailer.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:49 AM   #9
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How far are you towing the travel trailer? If staying local you can tough it out towing with a tiny half ton truck. Say towing 15 miles to the local State Park on back roads would be fine.

I had a case where I was fine towing local. But when I wanted to tow hundreds of miles vs 10's of miles I needed a bigger truck to tow on the highway.

You would be ok if staying under 55mph on back roads but not at 70mph on the freeway dealing with semi's and wind.
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It would be much cheaper to air down the rear tires and load 400 lbs of ? in the bed.
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Thanks for the great replies.

F350 Advantages: heavier, stronger drivetrain, stronger axles, stronger brakes, tougher frame, better tires, etc, etc.

Ram 1500 Advantages:smaller, lower, smooth ride, better fuel mpg, wife would drive it as a daily driver versus the F350 collecting dust in the driveway all except 2 weeks out of the year. Guess that's it.

(She hates the unsprung drive quality of the F350. I could replace springs, maybe consider air suspension, but it is still too tall for her to feel comfortable driving.)

Thus my dilemma, it'd be nice if we had a truck that was used more than 2-3 TT trips a year. I bought the truck when we were considering a 5th wheeler and wanted to have "enough truck". In hindsight, I should have stayed under 7,000# with a shorter TT setup. We never travel with more than 4 total bodies and will end up with maybe even a Class B down the road for ease of usage.
I think all of us get stuck in the middle at some point with what we want and what we should have. Some good points about what types of trips you take makes a difference. The problem is even if you only tow 20 miles each way on back roads, getting a half ton pretty much limits you to those trips forever. Will that come back and bite at some point? I'd guess the odds say yes.

Downsizing the trailer is a viable option but few like going smaller. lol.
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We have owned nothing but motorhomes until our current 23’ TT. Previous we had a Country Coach DP. We are now staying closer to home and going into more remote settings. Going smaller has many advantages besides being able to utilize a 1/2 ton. We have a 2017 Ram 1500 with the factory air suspension that always stays level no matter what we load in the bed. We test drove all makes in 1/2 and 3/4 ton. I would never trade in my truck just so I can tow a bigger trailer. Everyday comfort is way more important.
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Why not look at a 2500HD Ram with air suspension and order either the 6.7L Cummins or the 6.4L gas engine? This way you will have a truck with a capable towing capacity and a vehicle that will have improve suspension capabilities for a better ride.
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Old 05-01-2019, 02:12 PM   #14
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We own the Ram 1500 and love it but wouldn't try to pull that much trailer with it. Our pontoon (I don't know, maybe 3500 lbs soaking wet) sometimes gives the truck quite a pull when running anything but flat land. We certainly feel it back there.

Interesting, though, is that when we pull the truck with the Coach, the opposite is true. We don't feel it back there.
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