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Old 04-24-2015, 10:16 PM   #43
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Also F150 is rated #2 most American made, behind Toyota Camry
I stand corrected. I looked up where I had read it awhile back. It was gm that was lower us parts content not ford. My bad, should've read back before I posted.

However, chrysler is still a seperate company from fiat living and breathing in detroit. Yes fiat owns a large portion of chrysler but is still a US company doing business in us.

GM has a large presence in China with a headquarters there. Does that make gm chinese?
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:19 PM   #44
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I stand corrected. I looked up where I had read it awhile back. It was gm that was lower us parts content not ford. My bad, should've read back before I posted.

However, chrysler is still a seperate company from fiat living and breathing in detroit. Yes fiat owns a large portion of chrysler but is still a US company doing business in us.

GM has a large presence in China with a headquarters there. Does that make gm chinese?

Objection: relevance.
To the OP.... Do you ever plan to upgrade your TT? Appears that the 1500 Ram has the capability edge.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:42 PM   #45
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I'm a newbie to both towing and TT camping being newly retired
My TT will be a Creekside 20 FQ with a dry weight of 4,400 lbs and max of 6,200 lbs.

It's a very tough choice between the F150 and the Ram 1500, however for me the Ram wins on a number of points.

The tow rating for my configuration (Outdoorsman Trim, Crew Cab, 5.7L Hemi, 4x4, air suspension, 3.21 axle ratio) is 8,000 lbs according to the towing guide. The only axle ratio available on this trim is 3.21, even though the website lists a 3.92 option.

The F150 would pull 10,700 lbs (crew, 4x4, 3.5 ecoboost, max towing pkg, 3.55 axle ratio)

The Ram would seem to have a decent amount of headroom, please correct me if I am mistaken. I'll be running up the mountains throughout the West, btw. .......

Thanks all.
I have driven both a Ram with a 5.7L hemi and a 3.5L Turbo trucks.
I really loved the 08 Hemi charger I had. The 5.7L hemi makes good power But it need to be revved up some to get to that power. That is why every one is saying the 321 gears are not good for towing. for a truck, especially a truck that is going to higher elevations the Ford wins easily. It will be less tiring to drive. because of the broad torque the 3.5L turbo engine has. [U]Turbo Equipped Engines will make max torque at [I]ANY/EVERY[I/]rpm where they make Maximum Boost. This is because they get the same gulp of air fuel mix no matter the RPM.


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I would go with the F150 3.5 Eco boost. Higher towing rating, better for towing in the hills, higher safety rating and better resale. The major brands are all good but the new 150 is the best according to all testing and reports. .......
X2 on all of that
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Size does matter, especially in tow vehicles. Go 3/4 ton and don't look back. There is NO comparison between a F150-F250 or Ram 1500-2500. They are almost completely different. The price difference is small and in fact I purchased a new F250 for 1k less than a more thoroughly optioned F150. I don't need leather, navigation, heated seats and electric mirrors, come on it takes a man to drive a truck!
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Size does matter, especially in tow vehicles. Go 3/4 ton and don't look back. There is NO comparison between a F150-F250 or Ram 1500-2500. They are almost completely different. The price difference is small and in fact I purchased a new F250 for 1k less than a more thoroughly optioned F150. I don't need leather, navigation, heated seats and electric mirrors, come on it takes a man to drive a truck!
Is it okay if my wife drives our new F350?

I figure since she drove school buses in high school and college, she could probably handle this little rig

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PS. Like you, we found the price diff between a 150 and 250 to be minimal, moving up to a 350 was even a smaller price difference. A lot more truck for an infinitesimal price increase (when shopping through a fleet sales manager).
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The Hemi ram is an 8sp tranny vs the 6sp in the F150, so keeping the revs up where the engine likes and the 3.21 final is not an issue. The Hemi Ram can also be had with 3.92.

But as was said already, get a 2500. Then you can step up to the 6.4 Hemi.
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I think people buy Dodges because they like to say "hemi". ;-)
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I think people buy Dodges because they like to say "hemi". ;-)
Back in the day, always wondered why wedge heads weren't referred to as "wedgies"?
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I think people buy Dodges because they like to say "hemi". ;-)
No they buy them because they're a great riding, driving truck.
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and i'm 62 years old and owned many Mopar products, 1 Dakota, 1 Ram 4.7, and now my Ram 5.7 trucks, and NEVER had any major problem with ANY one of them. YES i buy DODGE/CHRYSLER !!!!!!

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Ugh...The Dodge Aspen was the worse car ever built IMHO. Dodge/Chrysler products are best to buy used as they still depreciate more than most.

The RAM truck is their best product. It does compete very well with Ford and Chevy. Of all the Chrysler products the RAM is the only one I would buy.

But their other products still fall short.
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and i'm 62 years old and owned many Mopar products, 1 Dakota, 1 Ram 4.7, and now my Ram 5.7 trucks, and NEVER had any major problem with ANY one of them. YES i buy DODGE/CHRYSLER !!!!!!

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Glad you never had any major problem, some of us did. Won't go into specifics, as I don't want to brand bash. My stuff is mostly ancient history, and think the current big 3 all have pluses/minuses.

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Ram has not been Dodge since 2010, or so.
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Excuse Me !!!

I do remember the bad Chrysler years, so sorry about that, never expeienced those years,yes, but they were the bad years for american auto manufacturing.

Ram Is not Dodge ????????????????????????????????????????????????

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