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Old 05-13-2016, 11:07 PM   #15
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Payload of the truck includes any weight you put into it or onto it. That includes the hitch, and the trailer tongue or pin.
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I'll be placing an order for a new Ram Laramie 2500 on Monday. Considering that I'll be pulling a 11,880 lb Fifth Wheel, should I get the Auto-level Air Spring Suspension option?.
If you go with the 2500 with the diesel definitely do not get the auto-level. It'll only have about 1800-2000 cargo capacity. Now the same truck without the auto level can be equipped with air bags to increase the cargo capacity up and beyond what you'd need for a 12-13k fifth wheel. The only difference between a 2500 and 3500 is the rear spring rate. Same axles, tires, wheels, gear ratio etc. of course one uses coils and the other leafs. The 3500 is available with the Aisin trans though.
I have the 2500 with the 6.4 and although it has a 1000 lbs more cargo capacity than a CDT it has a lot less towing power. I have the Auto Level and it is cool, but I can't increase my rear load capacity without throwing the computer into a frenzy! The 3500 also has its own version of the auto level. In my minds eye for $1,200 less you can put air bags on and not worry about computers etc.
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"the 2500 with the diesel definitely do not get the auto-level"

On the truck forum, I've seen guys say that this system only adjusts itself about an inch when a load is placed on it. That doesn't seem hardly worth the trouble.
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"The only difference between a 2500 and 3500 is the rear spring rate. Same axles, tires, wheels, gear ratio etc. of course one uses coils and the other leafs. The 3500 is available with the Aisin trans though. "


Not really. The 3500 has a heavier frame. Rear axle may be the same but carries duals. (I think there is still a SRW available but obviously with reduced capacity). I'm almost certain both use leafs. Coils are only used in the 1500.


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Coils are only used in the 1500.
Just FYI, I have a 2014 Dodge 2500 CTD, and I have coil springs.
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2500 have coil rear springs. 3500 srw has leafs. My 3500 srw fully optioned out has 4074lbs payload. Quite a bit more than 2500
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My bad. Coils it is!


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The frame is also the same between the 2500 and 3500. And prior to 2016 with the 900lb ft high output cummins and aisin tranny the rear end was the same as well.

I imagine a 2500 with air bags would do very well.
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I'd go with the Ram rear wheel drive over any Duramax....end of discussion.

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The frame is also the same between the 2500 and 3500. And prior to 2016 with the 900lb ft high output cummins and aisin tranny the rear end was the same as well.

I imagine a 2500 with air bags would do very well.
Okay, so what would be the difference in the ride between 2500 and 3500? Since we are not full-timers and probably never will be, the Ram will also be as a run around town vehicle, trips to Wal-Mart and the such.
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The coils in the 2500 will ride nicer for sure.
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I have the Ram 2500 with coils but I have a gasser (6.4) instead of the cummins. Payload is just shy of 2900lbs and it's a limited- so crammed full of options.

Above posters are correct. If you go with an oil burner then jump to a 3500. That cummins eats up a pile of payload. It will move mountains but can't carry them (in spec at least- real world is a different story)

If ride comfort is a major concern, I am afraid you'll be disappointed. The coils on the 2500 are great! Quite nice for an HD. The 3500 goes back to leaf and empty tends to ride like a wheel barrow. A 2500 cummins may fit, but stick to the lower trim levels of you'll quickly run out of GVWR with that 5th.
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The truck has to be bought based on the weight that you're going to carry. If you buy too little truck because you're worried about the ride then you'll be unsafe when you're towing.
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"the 2500 with the diesel definitely do not get the auto-level"

On the truck forum, I've seen guys say that this system only adjusts itself about an inch when a load is placed on it. That doesn't seem hardly worth the trouble.
Not true. That 1" think is in reference to the two different ride heights available. Standard height which would be like a regular truck. The second height is about 1"-1.25" lower and this is called Alternate tow height. But regardless if you drop 300 lbs or 1,000 lbs in the bed it comes back up to which level you have it set to. Now if you go over the load capacity of the system it'll go into a limp mode. That means it shuts down and you ride on the bump stops. This is why if you have a 2500 CTD with that 2000 lb load rate you may want to opt out of the auto level.
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