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Old 05-18-2014, 11:23 PM   #1
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We are upgrading our 2010 ram 2500 diesel long bed to a 2014 3500. Trying to decide between short and long bed, and dually or not. We have a 40 foot fifth wheel. I'd greatly appreciate your insights.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:41 PM   #2
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Full size box and duals definitely make the truck look and feel more clumsy but think about it, you are upgrading the truck to get better stability, handling and weight carrying capacity. The long wheel base improves stability and handling, the duals improve all three plus better safety. IMO a 3500 with short wheel base and singles is no better than a 2500.
Try to find a truck with the new Aisin transmission, it rocks.
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Long bed and duals.

As Cypreeloser said it really makes a difference with stability.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:50 AM   #4
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Dually long bed you can't go wrong.
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Dually long bed you can't go wrong.
Till you try and park it.

My short bed 2500 Mega-cab is plenty long enough for stability, but it isn't a dually and I wouldn't consider towing anything over 30' with it, regardless of how much under GCVW I was. If you are not getting an extended cab, then definitely a long bed and certainly a dually for a 40' trailer, IMHO.
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We are upgrading our 2010 ram 2500 diesel long bed to a 2014 3500. Trying to decide between short and long bed, and dually or not. We have a 40 foot fifth wheel. I'd greatly appreciate your insights.
Get a long bed if you are going to tow a fifth wheel. Get DRW if you need it to handle the weight over the rear axle. Its doubtful you need DRW, check the truck specs from the manufacturer. I have had both DRW and SRW and the SRW is just as stable as the DRW with the 1 ton suspension system.
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Thank you all. We will get the ram 3500 crew cab. I'd also appreciate more info on the aisin transmission. Does it shut out the air brake?
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I agree with everyone that says to get the dually. For a 40' 5th wheel I can not believe you already do not have the dually...

I know Rams can be optioned up with a 850 ft lbs of torque with the better transmission. Just my guess - they would put an exhaust break on their best engine / transmission.
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Get the DRW and the long bed. Just be ready to park in the North 40 anytime you want to go anywhere. We figure that is how we get our exercise lol
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Thank you all. We will get the ram 3500 crew cab. I'd also appreciate more info on the aisin transmission. Does it shut out the air brake?
There are no air brakes on the Ram /Cummins trucks. Now if you mean the VGT (turbo) exhaust brake the Aisin does not effect that. The Aisin weights about 200 LBS more so that will effect the max trailer towing capacity of the truck. But the Aisin will provide higher Hp/tq numbers and you can get the 11.8 inch axle. The single wheel drive trucks differential is the 3.42 ratio only with the Aisin can tow about a 16,600 lb. GVW trailer, the 68RFE auto can tow a 17,000 lb. max GVW trailer.

The Aisin is a medium duty truck transmission and has been stated by people who tow a lot you just can't break them.

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I agree with everyone that says to get the dually. For a 40' 5th wheel I can not believe you already do not have the dually...

I know Rams can be optioned up with a 850 ft lbs of torque with the better transmission. Just my guess - they would put an exhaust break on their best engine / transmission.
The exhaust brake has been standard on all 6.7L Cummins engines since they where introduced in Jan 2008 which were the 07.5 model year trucks.

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We have the Aisin in ours with 3.42 diff. and 20.500# tow rating, it handles our 5th wheel (17.000#) with ease, and I mean it. I like especially how the Aisin transmission shifts up and down under load and with the 3.42 differentials I get good fuel economy. I've owned GM's with the Duramax and Alison transmission in the past but I personally like this truck better, Ram made some big improvements starting with the 2013 trucks.
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The exhaust brake has been standard on all 6.7L Cummins engines since they where introduced in Jan 2008 which were the 07.5 model year trucks.

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I believe the 850# torque can only be had with the Aisin
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Think I'm sold on the aisin. The dealer is pricing a 3500 long bed dually ram big horn for us. Hopefully this is all the truck we'll need for many years!
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