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Old 12-02-2018, 11:37 AM   #1
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Rivian Electric Tow/Adventure Vehicles...We're Getting Close Folks!!

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Holy smokes, look at those HP and Torque numbers[emoji41] . Agree, we are getting close.
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So many nice touches: integrated air compressor, locking storage on the pick up...
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Old 12-02-2018, 12:58 PM   #4
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I bet if you tow a 6000 lbs trailer the range goes down to 150 to 200 miles depends on traffic wind and hills.
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Old 12-04-2018, 09:40 AM   #5
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HOLY SMOKES!!!!! 826HP AND 826 FT/LB's. That is a serious beast.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:19 PM   #6
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The low model expected to start at $70,000. Beefed up version starts at $90,000.

Ouch.


But very cool!
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:57 PM   #7
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Everybody harps on payload capacity for a tow vehicle! Will what would the payload capacity of a electrical truck with a battery bank big enough for 2 to 3 hours of towing a 16,000 LB, 13.5 tall (wind blocker) 5th wheel! Their is no way that a truck stop is going to have an electrical charging station that will allow you to charge the batteries in 1/2 hour or less to provide you enough capacity for another 2 to 3 hours of driving time. The infrastructure is just not their.
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Everybody harps on payload capacity for a tow vehicle! Will what would the payload capacity of a electrical truck with a battery bank big enough for 2 to 3 hours of towing a 16,000 LB, 13.5 tall (wind blocker) 5th wheel! Their is no way that a truck stop is going to have an electrical charging station that will allow you to charge the batteries in 1/2 hour or less to provide you enough capacity for another 2 to 3 hours of driving time. The infrastructure is just not their.
Meh, If it can tow 3500 KG for 300 kilometers it would suit many peoples needs. Many camp within 150 kilometers of home. Head for the lake Friday night, be back late Sunday afternoon. 80,000 is well within the budget of many potential buyers. My 3/4 ton Chevy couldn' t tow more than 300 kilometers before needing a tank up and it blew its engine a month after warranty was up. Yeh.

Charging. That one could be a challenge for non Tesla EV's. Tesla Supercharger network still rules the roost. The average Supercharger charging session is 24 minutes and that will drop when version 3 is enabled in 2019, probably around 15 minute average charge stop. We have to use Chademo stations at half the charge rate. Then again are battery is half the size so we are still seldom more than 20 25 minutes.
That will change in about a year when we order our model three Tesla. Don't really need the range till then so may as well wait as new goodies are always coming out on the Tesla.

Gotta say though, I am impressed with how fast the non Tesla DCFC network is building out. I give Tesla about a three year headstart. As long as they keep up with the Supercharger installations they will keep the advantage and people will continue to flock to their doorstep.

Oh, and if you are pulling your trailer to a campsite with 50 amp service you can always charge it overnight while you are sleeping.

Interesting times.
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Very interesting..........


Except the 'electrical grid' is over taxed as it is.


That magic smoke has to be produced at time of use and then transmitted


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[QUOTE=Old-Biscuit;4533576]Very interesting..........


Except the 'electrical grid' is over taxed as it is.


That magic smoke has to be produced at time of use and then transmitted


NIMBY.
Yes, too many people think, just plug it in for a couple hours, Tesla superchargers need mucho power.

https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/...chnically-yes/

Your truck will take a lot more. Don't think the average campsite will do it overnight.
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Very interesting..........


Except the 'electrical grid' is over taxed as it is.


That magic smoke has to be produced at time of use and then transmitted


NIMBY.
Yes, too many people think, just plug it in for a couple hours, Tesla superchargers need mucho power.

https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/...chnically-yes/

Your truck will take a lot more. Don't think the average campsite will do it overnight.
True. But a standard 14-50 plug can provide about 10Kw per hour. So let’s say the truck has a 200 KWH battery you can still get it done in a day. Although most of us driving EV’s don’t run our “tanks” to empty.

As far as the US grid being over taxed, I hear this all the time but it still surprises me. I read and hear that the US grid is essentially a third world grid, hopelessly out of date etc etc. How does that happen in a first world country like the USA. Most countries in the world are having no problems adopting with some having substantial extra capacity.

BC hydro indicates on their website that If all the personal vehicles in BC were to magically turn into electric vehicles tomorrow the additional load would be an additional 19 percent. Well within the existing capacity. It will be a couple decades before this happens though. Lots of time to adjust.

I’d be curious to know why the US grid is in such a “third world” condition as many describe it. Is it just certain regions? Maybe certain companies? Just doesn’t sound right for the USA.
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80% of the population in Canada is within 200 miles of the US border so you have a pretty tiny grid to update compared to the US.

I foresee campsites either charging an extra fee or prohibiting vehicle charging in the future as well.

I don't think using coal fired energy to power vehicles that have massive batteries with all the toxicity associated with their production could ever be considered "green". Electric vehicles will produce staggering power but until that energy can be produced without using fossil fuels it will not be good for the environment or your wallet.
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80% of the population in Canada is within 200 miles of the US border so you have a pretty tiny grid to update compared to the US.

I foresee campsites either charging an extra fee or prohibiting vehicle charging in the future as well.

I don't think using coal fired energy to power vehicles that have massive batteries with all the toxicity associated with their production could ever be considered "green". Electric vehicles will produce staggering power but until that energy can be produced without using fossil fuels it will not be good for the environment or your wallet.

All true. But a countries grid, Canada’s included, is built to the size of the population.

Agreed that the power will be paid for any where it comes from. Probably good cash flow for a campground. Already many are adding themselves to the plug share app as potential points of recharge.

Agreed on the coal thing but fortunately coal plays less of a role in the energy makeup. The US is under 29 percent and dropping and many countries are under 20 percent. The White House Just resleased a good report that covers some of this. Interesting reading. Generally speaking EV’s are always cleaner but how much cleaner they are depends on where the power comes from.

The nice thing about EV’s is it allows the polluting power source to be moved out of urban centres saving lives and money. Also much quieter.

EV’s are not the answer to everyone’s needs but they obviously have an ever growing market. A test drive can be an enlightening experience.
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True. But a standard 14-50 plug can provide about 10Kw per hour. So let’s say the truck has a 200 KWH battery you can still get it done in a day. Although most of us driving EV’s don’t run our “tanks” to empty.

As far as the US grid being over taxed, I hear this all the time but it still surprises me. I read and hear that the US grid is essentially a third world grid, hopelessly out of date etc etc. How does that happen in a first world country like the USA. Most countries in the world are having no problems adopting with some having substantial extra capacity.

BC hydro indicates on their website that If all the personal vehicles in BC were to magically turn into electric vehicles tomorrow the additional load would be an additional 19 percent. Well within the existing capacity. It will be a couple decades before this happens though. Lots of time to adjust.

I’d be curious to know why the US grid is in such a “third world” condition as many describe it. Is it just certain regions? Maybe certain companies? Just doesn’t sound right for the USA.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi...-close-up-look.
800 kw to charge, does not matter if done quickly or over a period of time. Tesla truck charging stations require over 1 megawatt per truck.

Brownouts and blackouts are occurring more often every year. Part of the problem stems from the fact that a lot of the grid was designed before the advent of modern electric air conditioning and heating.
Read a story about a doctor that bought matching Tesla's for him and his wife and wanted two tier 2 chargers installed. Could not get a permit because city though it would put too much load on the grid wiring in his area.
https://www.pluglesspower.com/learn/...-autonomously/

If the entire US wants to go to all electric vehicles, a lot of infrastructure upgrades will need to be done
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