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Old 02-23-2015, 08:37 AM   #29
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If you build it, it will pull.....

I put this one together several years back. It started as a twin screw '94 Volvo semi tractor. It had air ride, an 11.1 S60 @330/950 w/Jakes & Cruise and a Super 10 trans. Being a Volvo, a small block Detroit and a Super 10 (all unpopular with the super trucker crowd) made it a truck virtually no one wanted. I only gave $5,000 for the truck and spent another $1,500 doing the conversion.

Overkill? Yeah... Cost effective? Heck yeah! I was pulling a 20k gooseneck with it like there was nothing was back there and at about 10 mpg.

I fooled around and sold it because I wasn't using it much. Sure regret letting it go.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:30 PM   #30
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With a little spit shine and some new seat covers this baby will pull a 5-er anywhere you want to go. You cant buy a decent pickup for this price.
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the cheap one is a spring ride cabover ,one bump without a seat belt and the impact of your head against the roof will cripple you.
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Old 02-23-2015, 07:08 PM   #31
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If you have not spent much time on the forum this reply may not make much sense, if you have been here more than a couple of months, it will.

How many times have you seen a thread that could have (or should have) been titled "Can My Truck Tow This?"

Well, folks who shop Will-Ro (the web site is www.trailer-hauler.com if it is working) and other like dealers do not, EVER, ask this question. They know their truck can tow it...

That covers most of 'em.

A few of 'em are taking Busman's holidays.. In those cases the Tractor will have commercical plates and when its not towing the 5th wheel RV it is towing a somewhat different trailer.
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:31 PM   #32
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And the endless threads
-if I use air bag helper spring chip programer 5" exhaust etc etc will I ever be happy with my truck?
I tell the wife "if it fits it ships"...........bring it.
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Old 02-24-2015, 01:00 PM   #33
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I look at it like this. If you have to modify your truck to do what you want its too small. If I knew what I know now you bet your a$$ I would be pulling with a semi and the semi would cost less then my daily driver pickup truck. I was at a auction the other day and a nice clean Volvo owned and operated by the same person since new sold for 7 grand. I don't know when the last overhaul was but 7 grand is cheap. I guy I know just bought a mid 90s international semi for 7500 bucks 450 hp Detroit engine. 250,000 on over haul and re built trans. And here I am over here pulling a camper with a $30,000 07 Chevy diesel. I could have bought a $10,0000 semi and a $10,000 pickup and been money ahead.

As a good friend of mine has a motto he follows......Overkill is under rated.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:34 PM   #34
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On thing to remember is the time limitation of available spare parts. My friend had an older diesel pusher MH and needed a part for his speedometer. We searched every where and no luck. I met a parts specialist on a trip and we discussed my friends problem.
I was stund when he told me that dealers and manufacturers had a limitation of 11 years on the availability of spares on HDTs. Transport trucks are worn out after a few years while doing high miles. One would assume they are related to buses also.

So if one owns and old HD Diesel be ready to wait for availability of some obsoleted parts.

My 2005 Ford F250 has improved parts available by the after market available everywhere.
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Not entirely true. On my '98 Volvo I can buy all the parts from Volvo to rebuild the entire cab. Cummins has all the parts for the engine, Eaton has all the transmission parts.
The other question that comes to mind is how often am I going to need to rebuild or replace drivetrain parts. I have an engine with a 1 million mile B-50 rating, a transmission with a 1.5m rating, excluding the clutch, starters, alternators, AC compressors are all made to last hundreds of thousands of miles, Seats....Ok yes I might need to upgrade the seat eventually, but with 450k on it, its still in proper operating condition for a 8-way air ride.
B-50 rating is the rating that most heavy diesel engines are rated- either hourly or by the mile. 1/2 of all the engines produced in a specific category-size, HP, torque- MIGHT need to be rebuilt at the rating.
There is no way a Ford 6.0 diesel will last to 1m, even with all the aftermarket parts to make it "Bullet Proof".
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On thing to remember is the time limitation of available spare parts. My friend had an older diesel pusher MH and needed a part for his speedometer. We searched every where and no luck. I met a parts specialist on a trip and we discussed my friends problem.
I was stund when he told me that dealers and manufacturers had a limitation of 11 years on the availability of spares on HDTs. Transport trucks are worn out after a few years while doing high miles. One would assume they are related to buses also.

So if one owns and old HD Diesel be ready to wait for availability of some obsoleted parts.

My 2005 Ford F250 has improved parts available by the after market available everywhere.
Major engine and transmission parts are still in production and have been fore decades (a brake job cost the same for my Volvo as my old F250) cheap and plentiful ,you may have misunderstood.Body style changes are decades between redos as well.
Bare in mind casual conversations with mechanics are not very informative ,they all suffer from 'rock star' syndrome -they are constantly asked for advise and information that they begin to believe they actualy know more then the engineers and companies marketing deptments.
They do not
Motorhomes may get parts that are scarce but they are not made in the millions are they?
And the thread is about class 7-8 trucks right?
Not motorhomes , try to stay on topic
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its not always about pulling its about stopping and to quote my buddy who pulls his 40 ft newmar its a lot more fun to drive and a great conversation starter
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Great ice breaker for sure
-wotinthell is that!- gets things rolling , lots of good conversation,and the youngsters love to see the inside "can I blow the horns ? please just once"
wife gives tours ,she turned the cab into a home away from home,we quite often just hit the bunks when we wal- mart camp just like the motorhome guys ,got a fridge and microwave if the weather is bad we just stay in.
I understand the where the motorhome guys come from ,it a advantage over a towable.
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NuIt's the parts that joint the drive train to the rest of the truck that gets changes every time, in this case it was a speedometer adapter from the transmission to the electrical gauge on the dash. A $60000 MH using a GPS for speed indication. And who knows what other problem in shifting it caused.
Anyway he got rid of the old MH and the new owner thought he had a great deal that almost ruined him.
It had Alison power train and Cummins engine.
$10000 for a failed rearend did it for the new owner and he traded for a newer MH. There was 70k miles on this unit.
But the sales representative I had contact with knew about the part in question and the application was on the truck as he assured me we could find a part at a salvage yard. It seam to be his speciality of looking for rare parts.

I to, have experience with making parts for older equipment most of the time it's not replacing but upgrading and with experience works sometimes in our favour.
I always laugh at the comment about the stopping. Its the pulling that kills the truck. Braking is to me the simple part of towing. If one knows how to drive braking is never a problem, but power creates heat and heat breaks things if not taken care.

I saw an HDT towing an 8 ft utility trailer in town. My assumption was that he had to carry something and had no place or box to lace it in. No thanks my truck is used as a work truck and I need the 8ft box to get my work done. I can take the 5th wheel of in 5 minutes and use my complete box for my work.
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Ciassiel your post is anecdotal and a cherry picked extreme ,the discussion is HDT and your friends motorhome is not representative of my experience, rear drives are only (only ha)$2500 I think.
These things are quick and cheap (relatively) to maintain .parts are found at every freeway ramp they will come to you quik if you want ,commercial truckers demand it .
Motorhome owners do not get the same response in fact most truck stop owners remark how fast all the mechanics disappear when a MH pulls in ,they don't like working on them. Look at the shop rate for MH vs HDT ,there is a reason it differs.
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Ciassiel your post is anecdotal and a cherry picked extreme ,the discussion is HDT and your friends motorhome is not representative of my experience, rear drives are only (only ha)$2500 I think.
These things are quick and cheap (relatively) to maintain .parts are found at every freeway ramp they will come to you quik if you want ,commercial truckers demand it .
Motorhome owners do not get the same response in fact most truck stop owners remark how fast all the mechanics disappear when a MH pulls in ,they don't like working on them. Look at the shop rate for MH vs HDT ,there is a reason it differs.
I have to agree there is service and repair for a HDT just about everywhere. This would be one of the major benefits of a HDT.
The main thing that scares me about a DP MH is the fact that not every truck shop will work on them and you also don't want any and every grease monkey in the bedroom of your motorhome.
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