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Eltonnoland · 10-26-2015, 09:24 AM

I own a 2015 Silverado 2500 gas with 4.10. Owner's manual shows a 14,300# max towing, 3,000# max tongue weight.

The Fuzion 325 or Raptor 300mp fifth wheel toy haulers I am looking at show a dry weight of 12,800# and length of 35-38', 3000# tongue weight. Is anyone pulling this or a similar weight toy hauler with the same truck?

Thanks in advance.

monkey · 10-26-2015, 10:10 AM

As a new owner of a new 2015 Silverad 2500 Duamax,, (crew cab 4x4) I've been running numbers... I weighed my truck at work and rear axle (should be same as yours?) is max weight 6200 lbs. I haven't seen a max tounge weight of 3000lbs. But could be... But since I figure tounge weight and weight on the truck (such as a 5th wheel) is much different,,, like everybody says,,, weigh your truck, full fuel, loaded, ready to go.. Then you can factor in your hitch/pin weight,,, My 2500 has a rear axle weight of 3080 full fuel and just me... no 5th wheel hitch... Rear axle max weight according to Chevy is 6200 lbs. Weigh your truck. They are all different. (my numbers stock (actual) are 4680 front, 3080 rear... this with the diesel that is a lot heavier than yours...
Monkey

drittal · 10-26-2015, 03:02 PM

They are also going to be at or above the towing limits of your truck. The GVW of the fusion 325 is 16,500. Empty pin weight is all your available payload. Now fill the propane and add battery weight and cargo...

That's asking a lot from your gasser man. Will it pull it? Yup. But it's going to labor on anything other than flat land.

I'm all for gassers towing RV. I have one and love it. But loaded and camping I'm less than where you would be empty. IMO, those choices are 3500 and probably diesel territory.

a guy we camp with has a duramax 3500 and the Raptor 300MP. Pulls very good. It's a fancy unit with auto levelers and frame less windows and fireplace. The garage is just big enough for his RZR 900 50" lengthwise. When the sofa is reclined, it's a tight fit between the island and footrest. Did I mention how nice it is? Super nice.

rbleau6885 · 10-26-2015, 08:35 PM

I have a gas 3/4 ton Chevy and if you ask me anything over 11,000 especially if you travel not just a weekend warrior traveling an hour or so like me is diesel territory. My 6.0 pulls my 9k TT and floats down the highway at 85 at 2600rpms no problem on flat highway and I've been to lake george once and it did fine but hit those mountains and saw 3200/3500 at 60 to 65 climbing as a diesel would be at idle no gas trucks like hills

tuffr2 · 10-27-2015, 04:50 AM

Just observations - I see so many people towing trailers that are too large for their trucks. They are in the right lane towing at 58 - 62 mph in a 70 mph zone. You guys know who you are.

monkey · 10-27-2015, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Just observations - I see so many people towing trailers that are too large for their trucks. They are in the right lane towing at 58 - 62 mph in a 70 mph zone. You guys know who you are.

I agree with you tuff,,, BUT,, not everybody tows a lot of the time, cannot afford the added expense of a diesel, (9-10K extra) plus maint costs.. YES the ultimate tow vehicle is a diesel,,, thats what they are made for. Thats why I went the extra mile (and a half) and got the Duramax... But as long as we have our current class A , (350 Chevy) I'll stay in the right lane out of your way,,, and enjoy the average of 13mpg... And we get in no hurry,, 62-65 mph is fine with us... Can't say as I'd tow any faster than that, even though this truck would do it... I must say again, after a life long Mopar guy,,, I Love this new Chevy,,,, so far...

PS,, I can't wait till we get our TT or 5th and hit the mountians !!!!

2500HD · 10-28-2015, 04:39 AM

That truck has the 6speed trans which does a bit better than my 4spds. The first thing you need to look at is the trucks GCWR, it should be quite a higher than the trucks from a few years ago it may be 20,000lbs.

A 16,500 gvw toyhauler is way too much for any 3/4 ton let alone a gas truck. I would not be afraid to tow up to about a 12,000lb gvw trailer with a 6.0 if not going to the mountains.

16,500 gvw trailers are DRW only territory and yes you will see plenty of f-250's and 2500's pulling them that doesn't make it right. I would suggest finding out your trucks ratings and buying a trailer near it's max. larger toy haulers will be out. But a nice mid level 36ft fifth wheel will probably be within your ratings.

2500HD · 10-28-2015, 03:04 PM

Also you can get a ford f 350 with the 4.30 gears and the 6.2 which in a srw configuration puts the GCWR within a thousand or two pounds of the 6.7 diesel.
Don't quote me on it but that's what I have heard on here. I'm going to look long and hard at Fords with 4.30 gears for my next truck unless chevy offers a 4.30 or 4.56 rear

bailer6334 · 10-28-2015, 05:47 PM

Not trying to hijack the thread, but I figured I'd put in my 2 cents in to
Truff2 's comment about right lane speeds in a 70MPH zone.

Maybe its a oversight on his part, but he should realize many TT's with 14" & 15" China tires are speed rated for 65MPH, and we must travel at or below that speed if we don't want our China bombs to self destruct. Even when I had a 5er with LT tires as a matter of safety I did not exceed 65MPH. Just my humble opinion.

I also think you are in 1 ton territory, having had 3/4 and 1 ton diesels.

cb1000rider · 10-28-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Just observations - I see so many people towing trailers that are too large for their trucks. They are in the right lane towing at 58 - 62 mph in a 70 mph zone. You guys know who you are.

When our ST tires are rated to 65mph and most of them leave the factory at about 90% of their rated capacity. Towing at 61mph is fine by me...

You're right - lots of people over-towing. It's not getting up to speed that worries me, it's being able to stop. Modern gas trucks, easily 350-400hp. They'll pull at the posted speed limit flat and level with huge loads. They'll also squat, have trouble stopping, and may have issues when it gets windy.

Towing a 35'+ toy hauler on a 3/4 ton - you bet lots of those are over, especially if they're loaded up.

1bigmess · 10-28-2015, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Just observations - I see so many people towing trailers that are too large for their trucks. They are in the right lane towing at 58 - 62 mph in a 70 mph zone. You guys know who you are.

I tow a trailer that is much smaller than the capacity of my truck. I can be found in the right lane (or maybe the second from the right lane if three lanes or more on my side of the highway) of any freeway driving the speed limit or around 55-60, depending on the speed limit. If you don't like that, let me know when you go by so I can properly salute you.

tuffr2 · 10-29-2015, 04:03 AM

Driving that slow in a 70mph zone is kinda dangerous. What happens if you increase speed to 65 mph. You say you have enough truck??? I somehow doubt it.

justafordguy · 10-29-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

You say you have enough truck??? I somehow doubt it.

Dang man, that's kinda rude, he has a 20' TT and a new 2500 truck. He is well below his trucks capacity.

I guess some people are just not in as big of a hurry as you are.

1bigmess · 10-29-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Driving that slow in a 70mph zone is kinda dangerous. What happens if you increase speed to 65 mph. You say you have enough truck??? I somehow doubt it.

Prove it's dangerous. I want to see data that backs up your assertion that shows a breakdown of speed differentials being causal to increased traffic crashes.

I'm just trying to save fuel. If I'm over in the right lane on a four lane highway, I'm staying out of your way. If I'm in the middle lane when there are three lanes available, I'm out of your way and making it easier to people to more safely merge onto the highway.

If that isn't acceptable to anyone, they have a problem, not me. I'm not gonna spend more money to make anyone else "feel" better.

If you want to go screaming by at 5-10 MPH, or more, than I, go for it. It's your fuel. You bought it, you burn it how you like. I'll decide how to burn my own fuel, thank you.