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Old 07-21-2018, 12:11 PM   #1
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Suggestion for new truck.

Need some help here...

Upgraded to a 2016 Cougar 28RBS Hitch Weight 955 lbs
Dry Weight 6338 lbs I know the weights are not real world.

We have right know a 2016 Ram1500, poor thing is suffering with the tongue weight even with air bags installed and the Andersen Weight Distribution.

So I am looking for a new truck and some input from you guys...right now I'm looking at the Ram 2500 and Ford250...Any pros and cons?...should I be looking for something else?

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Old 07-21-2018, 01:06 PM   #2
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Either of those should be fine with whichever engine you like unless you want to start carrying ATVs in the bed while you tow or something. The good Lord built me as a Ford guy so thatís the way Iíd go but RAM builds a fine truck too.

Going to a 3500/350 would leave more wiggle room for the next case of upgrade-itis.
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Old 07-21-2018, 03:03 PM   #3
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Any of the big three's will be fine.....we just picked up a cougar 25RES 5th weighing at 7500lbs with 1610 pin weight.....the 3/4 tons were plenty of truck but for around the same money we choose to go with a 1 ton Chevy 3500HD which gives us a bit more of everything in case we were to move to a larger trailer.
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Hi, Pineiro. and and to our campfire.

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Upgraded to a 2016 Cougar 28RBS Hitch Weight 955 lbs
Dry Weight 6338 lbs I know the weights are not real world.
GVWR is 8,200 pounds, so a wet and properly loaded TT with a good weight-distributing/sway-control hitch probably has hitch weight of about 1,100 pounds.

For a hitch weight of around 1,100 pounds, you need a heavy duty half-ton or a three-quarter ton, and a one ton SRW would be even better.

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I would not consider the FiAT because their owners went broke, declared bankruptcy, and cheated their retired employees out of their life savings and retirement savings that were invested in Chrysler stock. Same with GM, except they sold out to their unions instead of to a foreign auto company. But their retired and former employees still got the shaft. So that leaves Ford, which makes very good trucks, and they didn't mismanage their company so they didn't go broke or declare bankruptcy and screw their lifelong employees.

To pull that trailer and no heavier, the F-150 with the 3.5L EcoBoost engine and heavy duty payload package (HDPP) is all you need. But dealers don't stock the HDPP F-150s, so they are rare as hens' teeth. And similar performance and weight capacity would be the F-250 with the gas engine. But if it were me, I'd upgrade to the F-350 SRW to get the additional 1,500 pounds payload capacity. And I'd want the wonderful 6.7L PowerStroke diesel (PSD) just in case DW decided next year that she would really rather have a fifth wheel RV trailer like we had for over 10 years.

My TT is much lighter at less than 5,000 pounds when on the road, so I plan to special order a new F-150 this fall. 3.5L Ecoboost, HDPP and max tow in a SuperCrew with Lariat trim.

Two problems with the HDPP F-150 for some buyers. You cannot get the shorty bed, and the fanciest trim you can get is the base Lariat trim (500A). So if you want a luxury tow vehicle, such as a Platinum or King Ranch trim, then you have to move up to a SuperDuty.
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Not sure how you can screw a life long employee unless you were not paying a fair wage. If someone works 40 hours and gets paid for 40 hours how is that getting screwed?
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thanks for all the reply's
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and STOP talking about getting a bigger trailer in the future....the wife might hear it...kkkk
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and STOP talking about getting a bigger trailer in the future....the wife might hear it...kkkk


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Not sure how you can screw a life long employee unless you were not paying a fair wage.
These employees were all members of the UAW, so they were all paid more than a "fair" wage. Many observers think they were overpaid.

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Because their boss encouraged them to buy company stock for their IRA or 401k retirement plans. Being loyal employees, and wanting to be team players, many bought the stock. Good deal before the financial crisis of 2008. But then the storm. Ford weathered the storm, but GM and Chrysler went belly up. When the dust settled in 2009, their company stock was worthless.
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I would look at the Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi and the 8 speed tranny. Personally I am not a big fan of the new body style.
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I'll echo the other guys in that I'm totally happy with the performance of my 2500 RAM, but doing it over again, I probably would look closer at stepping up to the 3500 for the additional payload and room to grow in the future. But for the RV you are looking at, with a 2500 Cummins, you will be looking behind you when you pull out to make sure you actually hooked up the RV, cause you sure won't feel it back there. As far as Ford goes, I've owned a few in years past and they were OK. In the last 25 years I've driven them for work almost daily (generally Crown Vics and Police Interceptors, not trucks) I have seen their quality decline to the point I personally would not buy one, especially considering a decked out F150 gasser costs more than a RAM 2500 diesel. But that's JMHO. And everybody has their own.
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Because their boss encouraged them to buy company stock for their IRA or 401k retirement plans. Being loyal employees, and wanting to be team players, many bought the stock. Good deal before the financial crisis of 2008. But then the storm. Ford weathered the storm, but GM and Chrysler went belly up. When the dust settled in 2009, their company stock was worthless.
listening to one's boss for retirement advice sounds like a bad idea
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I would look at the 3500/350 SRW. If you look around, it can be almost the same price, or within a grand or so of the 3/4 ton. Dimensions are the same, same engine, and usually same mpg. That is the one mistake I made buying a 3/4 ton. Should have gone the 1 ton route, for at the time, it was only $800 more.
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1. you cannot get a 6.4l hemi with the 8 speed tranny. 68rfe is a 6 speed. so is the aisin
2. go to the ram forum and search. many folks are unhappy with the 68rfe gearing when combined with the 6.4 hemi.
3. test drive the aforementioned combo and judge for yourself. i did and was not impressed. then test drive a ctd with the same tranny, youíll definitely feel the difference
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