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Old 08-14-2013, 07:11 PM   #15
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Towing a 5,000 lb. trailer with a V6 Honda Ridgeline I got 9.5mpg. Towing the same trailer with a 5.0 litre F-150 I got 11mpg.

But in this case the 5.0 litre F-150 also got better solo mpg by the same 1.5mpg better.

The F-150 was a 6 speed while the Ridgeline was a 5 speed.
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I only get 18mpg in my tacoma with just me and a coffe cup. Worst P/U I've ever owned for mpg. It's also a 6 speed with O/D. 18 mpg freeway driving is tops.
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #17
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Keep in mind your ST trailer tires are only rated for a sustained top speed of 65 MPH at maximum inflation. That might help mileage to slow down a bit.
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Old 08-15-2013, 05:05 AM   #18
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I only get 18mpg in my tacoma with just me and a coffe cup. Worst P/U I've ever owned for mpg. It's also a 6 speed with O/D. 18 mpg freeway driving is tops.
Hey BobbyL,

I am getting more like 21/22 when the truck is just me and the wife. Speed plays a huge factor in my numbers. The difference between MPG at 55mph and 70mph is significant.

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Old 08-16-2013, 03:15 AM   #19
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10 mpg isn't bad at all by what people get for any TV or engine in towing conditions.

Our old truck was an F150 with a V6 4.2l. We had a 20' TT weighing 5,000 lbs loaded. On a trip through Washington and Oregon last year, we were under 10 mpg most of the time and as low as 5.7. The little V6 was running flat out most of the time and running at high RPMs to maintain power. IIRC, it only puts out 205 HP. On the steep hills on the I-5 to Grants Pass, we were going flat out at 30-35 mph along with the semis on the right hand shoulder. Not fun at all. Had to stop at 2 Ford dealers on the way back to get a new water pump, idler pulley and belt. Lost a couple of good days of camping. Our gas hog V10 with a longer TT weighing nearly 7K lbs gets around 10-11 mpg and is a lot more relaxed with it's higher power and torque.

If your engine is running hard all the time though, that's probably not good for it. It's not so much the weight or length of a trailer that's a factor, it's the frontal area and wind resistance and slower speed is better because of this. For us, setting it on cruise control at running steady at 60-65 mph in tow/haul mode works well. Accelerating slowly helps and backing off on the throttle and slowing down a bit on hills also helps. Constantly speeding up and slowing down eats into your mileage and it helps to try and anticipate what's happening down the road in front of you. If you have to pay $6/gal. for Canadian gas, you tend to learn what it takes to use less. I've noticed a HUGE difference in slowing down and otherwise driving smarter.
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We have a 25' hybrid with a V-8 Toyota 4-Runner. It weighs in at about 5000 to 5200 wet. I keep it between 58 & 60 mph and get a average of 11 to 12.5 mpg depending on the roads and wind direction. One time last year I got 13 mpg with a tail wind I about pissed my pants....

On flat hiway runs runs my tranny stays in over-drive at about 1800-1900 rpm's...

The V-8 4-Runner is rated to tow 7200lbs. Looking at the new Tunda's for 2014 with the 5.7L but I'm afraid of the poor gas mileage. The 4-Runner I can get 23.5 to 24mpg non-towing (hiway) or (16 to 17 city) as a daily driver, which is great, and the ride is smooth for a SUV.
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We have a 25' hybrid with a V-8 Toyota 4-Runner. It weighs in at about 5000 to 5200 wet. I keep it between 58 & 60 mph and get a average of 11 to 12.5 mpg depending on the roads and wind direction. One time last year I got 13 mpg with a tail wind I about pissed my pants....

On flat hiway runs runs my tranny stays in over-drive at about 1800-1900 rpm's...

The V-8 4-Runner is rated to tow 7200lbs. Looking at the new Tunda's for 2014 with the 5.7L but I'm afraid of the poor gas mileage. The 4-Runner I can get 23.5 to 24mpg non-towing (hiway) or (16 to 17 city) as a daily driver, which is great, and the ride is smooth for a SUV.
Hey Superslif,

I looked at the 2013 4Runner (basically the same vehicle as the Tacoma but SUV). The 2013's don't have a V8 option. What years is yours? Your stats are 20% better than mine for towing/non-towing. Maybe I should be looking for a vehicle like yours.

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Old 08-16-2013, 09:16 AM   #22
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I had a GMC hd2500 with a 6.0 gas engine....i never got 14 mpg hiway (got 13.93 mpg once) empty and always got 7.1-7.3 mpg towing 8000 pounds. It struggles all the time....disappointing

Traded for a 2013 Ram 2500 with a Hemi....gets oved 19 mpg hiway empty. Will be towing the first time next week...we will see.

I looked hard at the diesels, but for an extra $8,000 cost, I can buy a lot of gas. Most folks in my weight range get 10-12 towing. Not worth it to me for a daily driver.
I would love to see 10 mpg towing, but I doubt it....you are in pretty good shape, I think
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I tow 9k TT with my 2007 Duramax and get tween 10-11. I towed a buddy's 5k TT and got tween 10-11. I towed a "lowboy" with four pallets of sod @ ~3k each (12,000) + trailer and got 14 mpg. Wind resistance means something.
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When we 1st got into rv'ing we had an 06 Frontier V6 AT and pulled a 4050lb TT. Got 8.5mpg. Upgraded quickly cause I hated the gutless feeling of the V6 to an 08 F150 5.4 with 3.73's. MPG instantly went up to 10.5. 3 yrs later moved to a 12 Ram CTD and got 11-12mpg. More power is better in most instances as the motor doesn't have to work as hard to tow. I ran in OD in the F150 and Ram. The wimpy V6 had to run in 3rd and 4th. Now I do live in Oregon so I have to contend with lots of hills and mtns. Guys out in the flat lands can get by with less. IMO.
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Thanks all for the examples. I don't know about others but these real world examples of what people are getting are very useful, so keep me coming. Right now we are in Florida and the Carolina's, so thinking the V6 will continue to handle the load, but when we move back to Canada it might be a different story.
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Be happy with 10. Pull a head wind for a tankful (like north east new mexico) and you'll be bragging on 10 mph next time. Lol. And, lower speeds make huge difference. Difference from 55 to 70 could be 2-4 mpg. At least in my experiences with two tundras and three trailers. Enjoy your 10.
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Keep in mind your ST trailer tires are only rated for a sustained top speed of 65 MPH at maximum inflation. That might help mileage to slow down a bit.
That's a great point, and something I had not fully considered. I appreciate the heads up.

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Best i seen with a 2010 Chrysler minivan 4.0 V6 towing 4200lbs tt was 13.5MPG @55MPH. Worst was 8MPG @70MPH. Norm is around 11-12 @ 60-65MPH. Unloaded gets 25-26MPG
Speed and terrain definitly a huge factor.
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